Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have been hoping to find a jaw with teeth for so long. I have a scrap pile while I put matrix pieces that have nothing interesting in them. I decided to hammer open some of the scraps.. It to great delight and surprise I could see what looked like teeth with my loupe but still could not tell until I took pics. The size of these teeth is very frustrating as it is so hard to try to get pics that are half way clear.. Here are the best of the shots. I am hoping it can be identified.. My theory is this jaw is the same type of fish as one of the heads I've found. The last shot is on the negative side. Thanks! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) My first impression was shark fin/spine. Some have similar curved teeth-like barbs. Waiting to see what others have to say. Edited July 17, 2013 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Ok, I hadn't even given that a thought.. Thanks, Indy.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Roz, I'm leaning towards jaw as I do not see any hooks/barbs on the other side of the piece, as I would expect, as it is in most of the fish spines I've seen. Also the long, slightly curving shape of the margin looks jaw-like. The teeth also look like fish teeth I have seen from these areas - conical, and darker at the base, and lightening towards the top. Be interesting to see what others have to say. Great find! Regards, Edited July 17, 2013 by Fossildude19 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Nice! They look quite similar to the little mandibles in the Muncie Creek: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=411124 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/page-5#entry425472 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=428131 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=428133 Edited July 17, 2013 by Missourian Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Roz..... Congratulations.... I reckon you found a jaw.... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Dem's teeth, IMHO. Break out the lager! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgrilusHunter Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Awesome find Roz! "They ... savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things." -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Roz, I'm leaning towards jaw as I do not see any hooks/barbs on the other side of the piece, as I would expect, as it is in most of the fish spines I've seen. Also the long, slightly curving shape of the margin looks jaw-like. The teeth also look like fish teeth I have seen from these areas - conical, and darker at the base, and lightening towards the top. Be interesting to see what others have to say. Great find! Regards, Thanks, Tim! I will keep in mind about barbs as a way to tell the difference.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nice! They look quite similar to the little mandibles in the Muncie Creek: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=411124 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/page-5#entry425472 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=428131 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/25758-phosphatic-concretions-of-the-pennsylvanian-muncie-creek-shale/?p=428133 I knew I had seen some of yours but could remember where in the thread it was. I think it looks most like your first link from what I can see.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Roz..... Congratulations.... I reckon you found a jaw.... YAHOO! I have wanted to find one forever that had teeth! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Dem's teeth, IMHO. Break out the lager! Da lager is out ! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Awesome find Roz! Thanks! I can't tell you how pleased I am! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandomas Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great find, Roz, this fossil was not easy to recognize congrats! Erosion... will be my epitaph! http://www.paleonature.org/ https://fossilnews.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great find, Roz, this fossil was not easy to recognize congrats! Thanks.. It's ironic that I have pretty poor vision.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nice find. If you don't mind my asking did it come from Jacksboro? Gary and I were going to head up there on Friday, but with all the rain we think the flats are going to be flooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) FYI, if it's similar to some Midcontinent Penn. core shales, the concretion-bearing horizon may be fairly extensive. Edited July 17, 2013 by Missourian Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Nice find. If you don't mind my asking did it come from Jacksboro? Gary and I were going to head up there on Friday, but with all the rain we think the flats are going to be flooded. No, not Jacksboro although others have found fish jaws there and shark material too.. That may be as there have been several days of rain in this area and again today. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimB88 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 WOw! What a find! Any idea on what kind of fish it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 WOw! What a find! Any idea on what kind of fish it is? No unfortunately.. I was hoping someone on here would know. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xonenine Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 a beautiful fossil Roz, increased by the pleasure of finding it later at home "Your serpent of Egypt is bred now of your mud by the operation of your sun; so is your crocodile." Lepidus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 a beautiful fossil Roz, increased by the pleasure of finding it later at home Thanks, Carmine! I really about blew that. It might sitting there for a few more million years! So glad I decided to crack open scraps.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Very nice find "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Thanks, Herb! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Roz... what sharp teeth you have... Congrats on finally finding such a great jaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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