Hemi-God Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Went to the Peace River for the first time since the rains stopped. I found the usual assortment of goodies along with two pieses I've never found before. I think I know what they are, but as it says at the bottom of all my posts, I'm no expert. Any help with confirmation, or proper identification, would be appreciated. #1 I'm thinking Glyptodon. A piece of osteoderm from the tail? .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 #2 I'm thinking from a Giant Tortouise. .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The object in post #1 is man made. It looks like concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm not so sure the object in the first set of photos is man made. It apepars to have a very coarse sand coating on the underside, but the upperside looks more like an osteoderm. Some of the osteoderms of Xenarthrans like glyptodonts or the giant armadillos are failry featureless, but so also are some of the osteoderms from the giant tortoises, genus Hesperotestudo. They can be told apart on the basis of thin sections, but it can be difficult, if not impossible, to do on the basis of surface morphology or on the basis of the gross morphology of a broken or erroded section. The vaguely pentagonal shape of the first one suggests xenarthran. The second one has no features that to me suggest either tortoise or xenarthran over the other. Rich The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm not so sure the object in the first set of photos is man made. It apepars to have a very coarse sand coating on the underside, but the upperside looks more like an osteoderm. I can see sand throughout this piece. I've circled in blue where it is more obvious. The shape looks like it was originally a hexagonal pyramid. I think it is an ornamental tile or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Looks man made to me also, some type of aggregate, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The man-made object I believe is a "charcoal" briquette from a propane grill. Ramo (Edit) I think they are called Ceramic Briquettes. I've found a few in creeks and thought they were fossils myself! Edited October 27, 2013 by Ramo For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Interesting possibility, Ramo. I guess we just don't toss charcoal briquettes around outside here in Arizona......... Must be a Florida and Kansas thing. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the feedback y'all. I feel like quite the noob. I had believed that item #1 was of organic origin. Having come across pieces in the past that were quite porous and were also impacted with sand and other bits of debris. I suppose I allowed my imagination to get the better of me here. Taking a more unbiased examination of this item I've noticed a couple of things. First off, I took a dental pick to it to pry out these bits of debris and found that they were not pieces caught in porous organic matter as I thought. They are what actually comprise this thing. Hhmph! Also, the bottom of this thing is pretty much flat. No curvature at all. As far as it being a discarded briquete, well this is Florida. (Rednecks and all) I appreciate the 411. As always, this site rocks! Edited October 28, 2013 by Hemi-God .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Hemi-god, I'm glad you are out hunting. Isn't it a perfectly wonderful feeling. I love standing in the river on a bright and sunny day. If it is any consolation I would have IDed these exactly the same as you did --- a strange glyptodont osteoderm (because giant armadillo are flat) and a giant tortoise foot pad. Oh well I will let you know if I ever find one of these pyramid shaped hexagons. SS The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 #2 looks like a giant tortoise spur to me. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 At least I got one of them right. Even if I couldn't spell tortoise right with the spell checker giving me hints. Thanks. .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I've been temporarily fooled by these ceramic briquettes several times before as well. We can extend their range to NJ and the Carolinas. Here are some examples of the geometry: https://www.google.com/search?q=ceramic+briquettes&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vfN0UqHcPPSwsASA3YDIBQ&ved=0CFgQsAQ&biw=1235&bih=568#imgdii=_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Sometimes it absolutely amazes me what I find in this river. .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 oh this has been a fun post- The range of Ceramocalidum petram - also known as Briquettomyte reneckitus- spans most of the present-day CONUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 hahaha... I think you meant Briquettomyte redneckitus .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi-God Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 I miss 'tracer'. He would have raked me over the coals, or briquettes in this instance, for this one. .. *NOT an expert.I haven't a clue what I'm doing.But I'm loving every minute of it. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 oh confound it- yeah I missed a letter, thans for the correction, HG I read back a LOT before I joined, and I do wish tracer was still here. Would've loved to see him in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 ...I read back a LOT before I joined, and I do wish tracer was still here. Would've loved to see him in action. A sharper wit we've never seen. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 ditto that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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