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Went to the Peace River for the first time since the rains stopped. I found the usual assortment of goodies along with two pieses I've never found before. I think I know what they are, but as it says at the bottom of all my posts, I'm no expert.

Any help with confirmation, or proper identification, would be appreciated.

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I'm thinking Glyptodon. A piece of osteoderm from the tail?

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I'm thinking from a Giant Tortouise.

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I'm not so sure the object in the first set of photos is man made. It apepars to have a very coarse sand coating on the underside, but the upperside looks more like an osteoderm.

Some of the osteoderms of Xenarthrans like glyptodonts or the giant armadillos are failry featureless, but so also are some of the osteoderms from the giant tortoises, genus Hesperotestudo. They can be told apart on the basis of thin sections, but it can be difficult, if not impossible, to do on the basis of surface morphology or on the basis of the gross morphology of a broken or erroded section.

The vaguely pentagonal shape of the first one suggests xenarthran.

The second one has no features that to me suggest either tortoise or xenarthran over the other.

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I'm not so sure the object in the first set of photos is man made. It apepars to have a very coarse sand coating on the underside, but the upperside looks more like an osteoderm.

I can see sand throughout this piece. I've circled in blue where it is more obvious. The shape looks like it was originally a hexagonal pyramid. I think it is an ornamental tile or something similar.

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Looks man made to me also, some type of aggregate,

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The man-made object I believe is a "charcoal" briquette from a propane grill.

Ramo

(Edit) I think they are called Ceramic Briquettes. I've found a few in creeks and thought they were fossils myself!

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Interesting possibility, Ramo. I guess we just don't toss charcoal briquettes around outside here in Arizona......... Must be a Florida and Kansas thing.

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Thanks for the feedback y'all. I feel like quite the noob.

I had believed that item #1 was of organic origin. Having come across pieces in the past that were quite porous and were also impacted with sand and other bits of debris. I suppose I allowed my imagination to get the better of me here.

Taking a more unbiased examination of this item I've noticed a couple of things.

First off, I took a dental pick to it to pry out these bits of debris and found that they were not pieces caught in porous organic matter as I thought. They are what actually comprise this thing. Hhmph!

Also, the bottom of this thing is pretty much flat. No curvature at all.

As far as it being a discarded briquete, well this is Florida. (Rednecks and all)

I appreciate the 411. As always, this site rocks!

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Hemi-god,

I'm glad you are out hunting. Isn't it a perfectly wonderful feeling. I love standing in the river on a bright and sunny day.

If it is any consolation I would have IDed these exactly the same as you did --- a strange glyptodont osteoderm (because giant armadillo are flat) and a giant tortoise foot pad.

Oh well I will let you know if I ever find one of these pyramid shaped hexagons. SS

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At least I got one of them right. Even if I couldn't spell tortoise right with the spell checker giving me hints.

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I've been temporarily fooled by these ceramic briquettes several times before as well. We can extend their range to NJ and the Carolinas. Here are some examples of the geometry: https://www.google.com/search?q=ceramic+briquettes&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vfN0UqHcPPSwsASA3YDIBQ&ved=0CFgQsAQ&biw=1235&bih=568#imgdii=_


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Sometimes it absolutely amazes me what I find in this river.

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oh this has been a fun post-

The range of Ceramocalidum petram - also known as Briquettomyte reneckitus-

spans most of the present-day CONUS.

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hahaha...

I think you meant Briquettomyte redneckitus

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I miss 'tracer'.

He would have raked me over the coals, or briquettes in this instance, for this one.

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oh confound it- yeah I missed a letter, thans for the correction, HG

I read back a LOT before I joined, and I do wish tracer was still here.

Would've loved to see him in action.

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...I read back a LOT before I joined, and I do wish tracer was still here.

Would've loved to see him in action.

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