Auspex Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I have sent a link to this topic to AgrilusHunter; hopefully he will weigh in. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone digger Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Maybe, if it was sandwiched between leaves. The matrix appears to be richly foliate... I guess so eh! My insect and plant collecting has been pretty limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocksdale Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Wow. That's cool that you found the counterpart. I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing more photos. The debate between leaf and wing highlights the possibility of wings originally evolving to mimic leaves. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.–Carl Sagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opisthotriton Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'd doubt that wings "originally" evolved to mimic leaves, but some wings did later evolve to mimic leaves. Yongjie Wang, Conrad C. Labandeira, Chungkun Shih, Qiaoling Ding, ChenWang, Yunyun Zhao, and Rena (2012)Jurassic mimicry between a hangingfly and a ginkgo from China.doi: 10.1073/pnas.1205517109Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences http://www.pnas.org/content/109/50/20514.full.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamfer Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 I took the specimen (part and counterpart) to the Alabama Museum of Natural History today (Friday). The Curator of Paleontology put it under a microscope, and determined that it was definitely an insect wing. I'm very pleased, and was delighted to donate it to the museum. We were shown several of their other specimens of insect wings. All were much bigger than the 12mm one I had. They made some awfully big bugs back in the Carboniferous Period! We also got a guided tour of the back rooms at the museum, including the preparation labs and the main storage where thousands of fossils, from traces to inverts to dinosaurs are kept. It was an extremely good day. This week I slapped together a DIY light tent and took some better photos. Attached are part and counterpart. Once again, thank you everyone for your input and thoughts in this thread. I'm off to look for more goodies. Someone needs to find an insect with the body, after all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I took the specimen (part and counterpart) to the Alabama Museum of Natural History today (Friday). The Curator of Paleontology put it under a microscope, and determined that it was definitely an insect wing. I'm very pleased, and was delighted to donate it to the museum. We were shown several of their other specimens of insect wings. All were much bigger than the 12mm one I had. They made some awfully big bugs back in the Carboniferous Period! We also got a guided tour of the back rooms at the museum, including the preparation labs and the main storage where thousands of fossils, from traces to inverts to dinosaurs are kept. It was an extremely good day. This week I slapped together a DIY light tent and took some better photos. Attached are part and counterpart. Once again, thank you everyone for your input and thoughts in this thread. I'm off to look for more goodies. Someone needs to find an insect with the body, after all! _MG_7167.jpg_MG_7186.jpg Congratulations on a wonderful find, and on your donation to the museum! Well done. Now, go find some more! Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Double Woot! The donation deserves to be announced here: LINK 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I took the specimen (part and counterpart) to the Alabama Museum of Natural History today (Friday). The Curator of Paleontology put it under a microscope, and determined that it was definitely an insect wing. I'm very pleased, and was delighted to donate it to the museum. We were shown several of their other specimens of insect wings. All were much bigger than the 12mm one I had. They made some awfully big bugs back in the Carboniferous Period! We also got a guided tour of the back rooms at the museum, including the preparation labs and the main storage where thousands of fossils, from traces to inverts to dinosaurs are kept. It was an extremely good day. This week I slapped together a DIY light tent and took some better photos. Attached are part and counterpart. Once again, thank you everyone for your input and thoughts in this thread. I'm off to look for more goodies. Someone needs to find an insect with the body, after all! _MG_7167.jpg_MG_7186.jpg Excellent images and a worthy goal. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Well done! You're off to a very good start with your hobby! Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I have to say this one is still vexing me. I still feel much more strongly that it is a partial leaf rather than in insect wing. Have a look at these various wings and fossil leaves. To me the wings have a much more chaotic venation and the leaves tend towards a more orderly birfurcating pattern. Edited October 13, 2015 by Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm with Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amphipod Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Weird features, this is what I see, thick veins, close together, coming from the top, and the veins extend all the way to the objects visible border, there are a few other features I notice. But either way, usually insect wings with thick veins have a good amount of space between veins, and with thin veins they have them a lot closer, compare cicadas to dragonflies. Plant veins often come more often through the middle of the leaf and the thick veins usually have many visibly smaller veins branching off of them. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amphipod Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I agree that it's a wing, a Weird wing though. Edited October 15, 2015 by amphipod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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