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Basilosaurus teeth? How do we tell the real ones?

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-Andy-

Hi all. I am currently looking for a genuine Basilosaurus tooth. Problem is, the market is too heavily saturated with other Archaeocetes like Dorudon or Zygorhiza.

As far as I understand, if a tooth comes from Western Sahara of Morocco, and is over 10cm in length including root, there's a chance it could be cf. Basilosaurus isis. Here I have several candidates.

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Tooth A - 6 inches in length

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Tooth B - 5.5 inches in length

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Tooth C and D - 6 inches along the curve

Is there any way I can positively ID out a Basilosaurus tooth? Do any of these 4 teeth look like one?

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-Andy-

Unlikely, given that these are all anterior teeth which are morphologically uninformative amongst archaeocetes. Gingerich and Zouhri (2015) just reported a middle Eocene archaeocete fauna from Morocco but found no Basilosaurus - instead a large basilosaurid, formerly considered a protocetid - Eocetus schweinfurthi - is known instead. The basilosaurid Platyosphys and possibly the protocetid Pappocetus are additional candidates for these teeth.

Thank you for the info.

If I wanted a definite Basilosaurus tooth, is there any type of teeth, or locality I should go for?

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Boesse

Jackson Group, Mississippi-Alabama region in the US is pretty much the only place you can legally get Basilosaurus worldwide - other place is Egypt, but fossils and antiquities are very regulated and the Basilosaurus locality - Wadi al Hitan - is essentially like a national park of sorts (UNESCO World Heritage site).

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FossilDAWG

Basilosaurus is the only fossil that is legally "protected" in Alabama: it is illegal to remove any Basilosaurus specimen from the state without the written permission of the Governor. Not that I've ever heard of the law being enforced. I suspect legislators were thinking of complete skeletons, not isolated teeth or vertebrae, when they passed the law, though it is not written that way.

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-Andy-

Thank you for the info.

I suspect getting a definite Basilosaurus tooth is outta the question unless I'm willing to pay a 4-digit price.

I'll look into Moroccan Basilosaurids to see if I can at least try to decipher the species.

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Shirlspup

Does this look like a Basilosaurus tooth? My husband found it in South Carolina.

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Macrophyseter

Does this look like a Basilosaurus tooth? My husband found it in South Carolina.

seems like a dinosaur tooth to me... A basilosaurus tooth dosent normally have a crown that big, and the crown is a bit too "bent" (wrong word?).

Plus, anyone know any good online shops that sell bargain basilosaurus (or any eocene whale) teeth?

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Troodon

Does this look like a Basilosaurus tooth? My husband found it in South Carolina.

It's neither a Basilosaurus or Dinosaur Tooth. Might be a tusk but I'm not very knowledgeable in this area.

You might get additional responses if you post this as a separate topic also under the ID section.

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Bdda

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Basilosaurus from Morocco

Eocene age 

Marine vertebrate fossils

 

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-Andy-
1 hour ago, Bdda said:

IMG-20170603-WA0059.thumb.jpg.b029288b2f6308f619813f7daec4a15e.jpg

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Basilosaurus from Morocco

Eocene age 

Marine vertebrate fossils

 

 

Are you sure you posted the correct first picture?

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Still_human
On 7/17/2017 at 7:18 AM, Bdda said:

Yes

The first picture is not of teeth. Those are claws

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ynot
On 6/16/2017 at 8:53 AM, Bdda said:

Basilosaurus from Morocco

 

1 hour ago, Still_human said:

The first picture is not of teeth. Those are claws

 

The one on the right is a piece of bone carved to look like a claw.

Not sure about the one on the left, but looks more like a real claw than the other.

But neither are basilosaurus, or teeth.

 

@Bdda, I suggest You post pictures of these "claws" in the "is it real" sub forum. 

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/forum/190-is-it-real-how-to-recognize-fossil-fabrications/

 

The basilosaurus tooth is nice.

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Troodon
10 hours ago, ynot said:

 

 

The one on the right is a piece of bone carved to look like a claw.

Not sure about the one on the left, but looks more like a real claw than the other.

But neither are basilosaurus, or teeth.

 

@Bdda, I suggest You post pictures of these "claws" in the "is it real" sub forum. 

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/forum/190-is-it-real-how-to-recognize-fossil-fabrications/

 

The basilosaurus tooth is nice.

He has not been on the forum for the past year but both claws look fabricated

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ynot
1 hour ago, Troodon said:

He has not been on the forum for the past year but both claws look fabricated

Oh well, Maybe He will see this sometime in the future.

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Boesse

The claw on the left looks especially faked given that it is cancellous bone with grain running in/out of the picture and thus perpendicular to the long axis of the "claw".

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