JohnBrewer Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) I guess restoration is OK up to a point but are overly restored Heteromorphs common coming out Drôme? I've picked a couple up at what seems to be an average price for these examples in this condition. There's some resin between the ammos and matrix maybe as support. Do they often come out broken and are stuck back together? Certainly there is something going on as there is little room twixt ammo and matrix and ammos have been prepped there which looks far too clean to have been done on matrix. I've not yet had time to look for minute resin air bubbles on the fossils but the resin support doesn't look like it was hidden too well. I guess this could be intentional to show or a rubbish enhancement. One is soaking in water at the moment, acetone and UV lights are in my studio so can't do those tests tomorrow tho I might use Mrs B's nail polish remover to look for resin/colouring on the fossils. I'll get a hot needle out too. Rough images with not much info below, I'll take better pics later. Thanks John In an act of stupidity I think this should have been posted in the 'Is It Real' section so admins if you think I have please move. Edited for stupidity..... Edited March 30, 2016 by JohnBrewer John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I have collected and prepped a few of these. It seems that the ones you get on the markets have generally been color enhanced. The ammonites tend to be much closer in color to the rock color. Many times when you find them they are in several rock pieces, so it could be that some of them have some reconstruction if some of the smaller slivers of rock are not found. As for yours, I cannot say from just photos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taj Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Most certainly all legit , but enhanced for color , as JPC said . You must know also thta from these locations the ombilic is almost always pretty flattened also . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Very good explainations, thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 The very first thing that stuck out to me is the color. Just doesn't look right, but having never prepped these before I certainly think they are real. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear! Some images from other angles, iPhoney I'm afraid John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caterpillar Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I hope for you that you haven't paid a lot If you want to be sure, distemper with acetone http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Are they phoney? or fixed and repaired a bit? RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 John... They could simply be stuck to the matrix for display purposes...I have seen this done with some UK specimens, namely Blockley stuff........ Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I agree. Also there is too much wear on the parts that should have been protected from erosion by matrix. It seems like that part of the rock would have been removed in the preparation leaving a better preserved surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 I agree, I think they've been extracted in a couple of pieces or more, fixed, prepped, enhanced and remounted on a slab. No didn't pay much. €140 including shipping from France to the UK and I'm happy with that. Appreciate all your comments guys. John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Those heteromorphs are most certainly real, but they've been colour enhance and probably reglued. Nice heteromorphs. Are they yours? 1 Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Thanks The Amateur Paleontologist. Yes they are mine. John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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