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Wow ...That Theropod is a great find for eastern cretaceous deposits. I'm also thinking that your other tooth might be a Hadrosaur tooth

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Well how awesome is that Don! Congrats! : )

Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there!

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Wow ...That Theropod is a great find for eastern cretaceous deposits. I'm also thinking that your other tooth might be a Hadrosaur tooth

Thanks Tony. I guess we will find out about the other tooth. Hadrosaur was my first instinct.

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Well how awesome is that Don! Congrats! : )

Thanks Jeff.

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Great teeth! Always nice to see dinosaur material from our state and that theropod tooth is definitely one of the nicest I have seen. Congratulations!

p.s. Definitely fossil of the month worthy!

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Great teeth! Always nice to see dinosaur material from our state and that theropod tooth is definitely one of the nicest I have seen. Congratulations!

p.s. Definitely fossil of the month worthy!

FOTM seconded. Based on the cool serrations + rarity of NC theropods + I'm an NC boy. :-)

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Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert

Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous

Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk

Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus

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My theropod tooth is far to be as nice as yours. :envy:

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Wow! That theropod tooth is amazing! The serrations are beautiful! Congrats on an awesome find! :).

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Nice theropod tooth. I'm pretty sure the other one is a piece of modern deer tooth.

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Nice theropod tooth. I'm pretty sure the other one is a piece of modern deer tooth.

Now that you mentioned it.......I think you might just be right.

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Not sure I can ID your theropod tooth but can you do a serration count at the midline of the tooth on the distal and mesial carinae (5mm wide). Dryptosaurus teeth are Tyrannosaurids are around 8 and 8.5 per 5mm on these edges.

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That theropod tooth is one of the best East Coast dinosaur teeth I've seen! Any chance you could send a picture of it to the NC Museum? It might be a new species, for all I know!

The bottom tooth doesn't look hadrosaurid though; what could it be? Assuming Troodon is right and it is ceratopsian, that's even more valuable, as there is very little evidence for East Coast ceratopsians aside from one NC leptoceratopsid whose jaw is currently in Yale.

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That is a beautiful theropod tooth! Eastern USA teeth are extremely rare, I only have two in my collection after many many trips searching for them, and yet, they are both hadrosaurids. I might have to take a trip to NC, if I ever get the time.

I would not label it Dryptosaurid, Drypto has sort of become a catch all for Eastern USA teeth because it is one of the only theropods from that area that has been given a name. I would label it as Eastern USA theropod, and I would definitely send some photos to the experts to get some opinions as to a more specific identification.

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That theropod tooth is one of the best East Coast dinosaur teeth I've seen! Any chance you could send a picture of it to the NC Museum? It might be a new species, for all I know!

The bottom tooth doesn't look hadrosaurid though; what could it be? Assuming Troodon is right and it is ceratopsian, that's even more valuable, as there is very little evidence for East Coast ceratopsians aside from one NC leptoceratopsid whose jaw is currently in Yale.

I have such fond memories of the NC museum. I remember taking a field trip with an elementary school class in the early 1960's. I stared up in awe at the huge skeleton of a whale suspended from the ceiling. That one visit opened my eyes to the world and changed me forever. I went back many times until we moved away.

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Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year

Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert

Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous

Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk

Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus

Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html

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That is a beautiful theropod tooth! Eastern USA teeth are extremely rare, I only have two in my collection after many many trips searching for them, and yet, they are both hadrosaurids. I might have to take a trip to NC, if I ever get the time.

I would not label it Dryptosaurid, Drypto has sort of become a catch all for Eastern USA teeth because it is one of the only theropods from that area that has been given a name. I would label it as Eastern USA theropod, and I would definitely send some photos to the experts to get some opinions as to a more specific identification.

That's how just about every isolated Dino tooth should be labelled. As theropod, hadrosaur, etc. The critical info being specific location. Only then is some reference made in attached notes to a possible genus and the reason given why 'that' genus.

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Nice theropod tooth. I'm pretty sure the other one is a piece of modern deer tooth.

Thanks Al Dente. And the other tooth; after doing some close up looking, comparing it to my Hadrosaur tooth (from the same location) and looking at pictures of deer teeth I think you may be correct. It is a very good match for an incisor.

Oh well, embarrassed I am. The one I was so sure about, I am wrong. The one I was unsure about I am right. Not the first time, nor will it be the last that I miss an ID. Thanks again Al Dente.

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Not sure I can ID your theropod tooth but can you do a serration count at the midline of the tooth on the distal and mesial carinae (5mm wide). Dryptosaurus teeth are Tyrannosaurids are around 8 and 8.5 per 5mm on these edges.

Troodon, I took some pics up close of the serrations, they are rather blurry so I wont post them. But if I understand your directions right there are about 14 or so serrations.

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That theropod tooth is one of the best East Coast dinosaur teeth I've seen! Any chance you could send a picture of it to the NC Museum? It might be a new species, for all I know!

The bottom tooth doesn't look hadrosaurid though; what could it be? Assuming Troodon is right and it is ceratopsian, that's even more valuable, as there is very little evidence for East Coast ceratopsians aside from one NC leptoceratopsid whose jaw is currently in Yale.

Thanks for your comments Anchiorins. I have yet to send any pictures but was planning on sending them to several people I know.

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That is a beautiful theropod tooth! Eastern USA teeth are extremely rare, I only have two in my collection after many many trips searching for them, and yet, they are both hadrosaurids. I might have to take a trip to NC, if I ever get the time.

I would not label it Dryptosaurid, Drypto has sort of become a catch all for Eastern USA teeth because it is one of the only theropods from that area that has been given a name. I would label it as Eastern USA theropod, and I would definitely send some photos to the experts to get some opinions as to a more specific identification.

Right now the tooth is simply labeled as Theropoda indet. with locality info. I have been searching Cretaceous areas for fossils here in N.C. for 20 years or more, but until last year and at this same site I had never found a dinosaur tooth. So I would not advise taking a trip here just to find one.

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Troodon, I took some pics up close of the serrations, they are rather blurry so I wont post them. But if I understand your directions right there are about 14 or so serrations.

Is that 14 over 5mm on both edges ?

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Is that 14 over 5mm on both edges ?

That was the total in a 5mm span from both sides (edges) ( which is over half the tooth) from the center. and honestly it is very hard to count these

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I tried to attach this photo earlier to show how it compared with a deer tooth but had computer problems that prevented it.

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