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Hello, and Welcome to the Forum. :) 

 

It appears to be some sort of coral. 

Not my strong point, I'm afraid. :blush:

 

Maybe @TqB will have some ideas. ;) 

Welcome again. 

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Thank you very much!

I was thinking of a Porifera sponge and a friend of mine was thinking of an Echinodermata sea urchin. There are no corals in these icy cold waters, but it could be possible if this is very old.  

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Thanks for the heads up, Tim, but I don't know much about Finnish ones. :)

 

I agree it's a coral and my first guess is that it's Silurian - Kodonophyllum truncatum is a possibility and occurs on Gotland if that's relevant...

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5 hours ago, TqB said:

 

I agree it's a coral and my first guess is that it's Silurian - Kodonophyllum truncatum is a possibility and occurs on Gotland if that's relevant...

 

I think I might have a mold of this which, sadly, I left at work and can't post a pic of until monday. would kodonophyllum fit with Devonian? 

 

The one time I don't bring my finds home :angry:

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19 minutes ago, DNF said:

 

I think I might have a mold of this which, sadly, I left at work and can't post a pic of until monday. would kodonophyllum fit with Devonian? 

 

The one time I don't bring my finds home :angry:

 

It's mostly Ordovician-Silurian. The Treatise lists possible Lower Devonian but there will be many similar looking corals - proper ID usually needs a specialist to look at sections.

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I can try to take better pics of it on tuesday when I get back home, if it helps. I am very grateful for your help! 

 

Can you explain what are the main features that tell this is a coral instead of a sea-urchin? My friend claims it is an imprint of a disconnected sea urchin spine. (?) :)

 

- Kara 

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16 minutes ago, Kara said:

I can try to take better pics of it on tuesday when I get back home, if it helps. I am very grateful for your help! 

 

Can you explain what are the main features that tell this is a coral instead of a sea-urchin? My friend claims it is an imprint of a disconnected sea urchin spine. (?) :)

 

- Kara 

 

It isn't an imprint - your specimen clearly shows that the septa (radiating plates) of the coral are three dimensional and extend down through the rock. There are four separate corallites showing.

 

It's a worn version of this sort of thing:

 

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I agree with Tarquin.
Compared with these images, I could see why your boyfriend thought it would be a regular echinoid with lost spines. In the first photo you could see some plates from the interambulacral zone of a cidaroid echinoderm, while in the second photo are imprints of plates from a similar echinoid, but there is only a superficial resemblance with your specimen. Could be tricky for the untrained eye.

 

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http://woostergeologists.scotblogs.wooster.edu/2014/04/08/cretaceous-echinoderms-are-todays-stars/

http://www.littlehamptonrocks.co.uk/fossil-guide/

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18 hours ago, Kara said:

 

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Hi Kara, welcome in TFF. I also think those are corals. I see that one is still in its "tube" (i don't know the right word). For comparison i show you one of mine in its "tube", you can find some in taller tubes as is one of yours.

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Thank You all very very much for sharing your expertise , your comments are very helpful and instructive !  :)

So I am a proud and happy coral-fossil owner  :wub:

 

 

 

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