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I am looking for some information on a fossil I inherited from a family member. I really know nothing regarding fossils in general, so any information is helpful!

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Hello, and Welcome to the Forum. 


The trilobites look like Pseudogygites sp, and Triarthrus sp. to me. 

 

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Do you know where they were found?

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Any idea where those might be from? If Tim is right with the IDs then they are likely to be Ordovician. That is an unusually large number of partial trilobites for one rock.

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Hm. I've never disagreed with Tim before, but those look somewhat different than Pseudogygites latimarginatus, where the pygidial margins tend to be thicker and the terminal axial piece has a bit more flaring, like the horn of a bugle. Can you tell us where you found it?

 

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Kane,

I see what you are saying. They don't quite match up, do they?

Any ideas on what else it could be? 

Maybe @FossilDAWG can have a look, and enlighten us. :)

Don, where are you?? 

 

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The gentleman I received them from past away a number of years ago so unfortunately I have no idea where they came from. I am in Western Canada so I assume it is from somewhere around here...

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These are Middle Cambrian trilobites from the Mt. Stephen trilobite beds (Burgess Shale).  Although collecting has been prohibited for many years, there are actually quite a few specimens floating around in private collections.  Ogygopsis klotzi and Zacanthoides romingeri appear to be the two species present on your slab of matrix.

 

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Hi Scott,

 

I agree with your suggestions.  I am puzzled, though, by the black shale-looking matrix.  Everything I have seen from Mt. Stephen is on a light tan-colored matrix.  I wonder what the source of these fossils was.

 

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Just now, FossilDAWG said:

Hi Scott,

 

I agree with your suggestions.  I am puzzled, though, by the black shale-looking matrix.  Everything I have seen from Mt. Stephen is on a light tan-colored matrix.  I wonder what the source of these fossils was.

 

Don

 

 

We have similar examples with dark colored matrix in the UO collection.  Unfortunately the precise collecting locality data is vague.

 

 

 

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Thank you for all the information! I acquired quite a number of pieces from this particular individual, so I will be sure to upload some more in the future!

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1 hour ago, FossilDAWG said:

...Everything I have seen from Mt. Stephen is on a light tan-colored matrix...

 

 

According to Deiss 1940, these are the different matrix types for the Ogygopsis fauna at Mt. Stephen:

 

"When the Mount Stephen section was examined in 1939 several surprising facts were discovered. The Ogygopsis fauna occurs in several different kinds of matrix: brown soft platy calcareous finely arenaceous shale in the upper beds; green tan platy harder shale in the underlying beds; black-gray calcareous shale beneath the green and tan interval; and white-buff soft slightly calcareous clay-shale at the base."

 

Deiss, C. (1940)
Lower and Middle Cambrian stratigraphy of southwestern Alberta and southeastern British Columbia.
Bulletin of the Geological Society of America, 51(5):731-793

 

 

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2 hours ago, FossilDAWG said:

Thanks for the info!

 

Don

 

 

Glad to assist!  

 

I just noticed this is posted in the "Help & Suggestions Discussions" forum.  Perhaps it can be moved to the "Fossil ID" forum where it will be more useful.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, piranha said:

 

 

Glad to assist!  

 

I just noticed this is posted in the "Help & Suggestions Discussions" forum.  Perhaps it can be moved to the "Fossil ID" forum where it will be more useful.

 

 

Good catch, Scott. 

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23 minutes ago, ynot said:

Truly a wonderful acquisition!!

Congratulations on getting such a nice fossil!

Tony

Thank you very much Tony! I have no idea regarding value or anything, should this be something that I get insured or no? 

 

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8 minutes ago, GHM said:

...I have no idea regarding value or anything, should this be something that I get insured or no? 

 

 

The policy of this forum does not allow for monetary appraisals.  I will send you a PM with additional info.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, piranha said:

 

 

The policy of this forum does not allow for monetary appraisals.  I will send you a PM with additional info.

 

 

 

Very much appreciated!

 

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On 25 novembre 2016 at 2:42 PM, Kane said:

Hm. I've never disagreed with Tim before, but those look somewhat different than Pseudogygites latimarginatus, where the pygidial margins tend to be thicker and the terminal axial piece has a bit more flaring, like the horn of a bugle. Can you tell us where you found it?

 

On 25 novembre 2016 at 4:53 PM, Fossildude19 said:

Kane,

I see what you are saying. They don't quite match up, do they?

Any ideas on what else it could be? 

Maybe @FossilDAWG can have a look, and enlighten us. :)

Don, where are you?? 

 

Please, don't hesitate to tell me if i am saying stupid things, because i am a newbie on this, but can they be a kind of proetida ?

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14 minutes ago, fifbrindacier said:

Please, don't hesitate to tell me if i am saying stupid things, because i am a newbie on this, but can they be a kind of proetida ?

 

 

No, they are not proetids.

 

Ogygopsis and Zacanthoides each belong to the Order: Corynexochida

 

 

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1 minute ago, piranha said:

 

 

No, they are not proetids.

 

Ogygopsis and Zacanthoides each belong to the Order: Corynexochida

 

 

Thanks.

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On 2016-11-25 at 11:35 AM, GHM said:

Thank you for all the information! I acquired quite a number of pieces from this particular individual, so I will be sure to upload some more in the future!

Looking forward to seeing more of your collection!:popcorn:

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