Cannot identify

[coled18]

Hi all, I'm fairly new to this forum and fossil hunting in general. I need help identifying these, idk if they are coral, sponges, posibally bone or what. These were found in NE Kansas, in a rock deposit full of bryzoans, bivalves and other oceanic fossils. I do know the majority of these fossils here come from around the Cambrian through the Permian periods, however there have also been a few ice age fossils in the area, so that may help. Thanks a lot! 

Edited March 5, 2017 by coled18
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[coled18]

I tried to upload these as well, but it wouldn't allow me to 

[ynot]

Welcome to TFF!

The first picture looks like calcite.

The second looks like an iron concretion.

Neither is a fossil.

Tony

[coled18]

@ynot,

I had a feeling the first one was calcite, I have a few crystals in my mineral collection and I noticed some similarities. Thanks a ton!

[abyssunder]

Some of the pictures are a bit blurry so we can't see the details/textures, also, it is a limit of little under 4 MB for upload per post. You could use consecutive posts or reduce the size of the photos.
As far as I can see, there are Ca-carbonate based geological specimens, the first one might be a multi-layered calcite structure. I don't see any recognizable fossils remains there.  Maybe the second one could give some hopes.

[coled18]

@abyssunder

Thanks for the input! I am pretty convinced the second one is not a fossil, but I was thrown off by the porous shape and structure of the specimen.

 

[howard_l]

The rock it self looks like a dolomitic limestone where most fossils and traces have been destroyed.

[coled18]

@howard_l Thanks!

[Peace river rat]

Don't give up, keep digging!

[coled18]

@Peace river rat Yup!

[Innocentx]

Hi, coled18.  I live and hunt south of you on eastern edge Flint Hills.

 

Here is a map of our area that may help you understand the geologic time period we are in.

[coled18]

Thanks!

 

[coled18]

@Innocentx Have you ever found complete fish fossils splitting rocks in the Hills before? I need to go out one of these weekends, and I always see a lot of loose fish bones in limestone, just never a complete skeleton.

[Innocentx]

I look through the splittable shale but don't find much.  I have found small sharks teeth, probably Cladodus.  They are fragile and embedded in the cement-like giant limestones, so I've only taken pictures.

[coled18]

Wow, thanks for showing those. I guess I should look for shark teeth one of these days.