Jaws & a tail

[Shellseeker]

I have found fish tails previously -- this one is smaller and in quality condition.  WHich types of fish moght have a vertical tail like this one..  Salt water?  Fresh Water. Approximate size L .8 x W 1.2 Inches

 

Now the JAWS!!!  H 1.0 x L 2.3 inches The teeth are 2-3 mm.  I have not previously found anything like this.

 

[GeschWhat]

Very cool! 

[Troodon]

Billfish had big Hyplurals (Tail Vertebra) not sure about yours

 

Jaw:  bluefish?

[Shellseeker]

1 hour ago, Troodon said:

Billfish had big Hyplurals (Tail Vertebra) not sure about yours

 

Jaw:  bluefish?

There is another TFF thread that IDs a similar jaw as bluefish.

I think BOTH Jaws have conical teeth, and Bluefish do not.  Mackeral DO and so do Alligator Gar, One key point is that this location is 30-40 miles from Salt water which may relate to whether or not this ia a fossil.

[jcbshark]

I would say possible mackerel jaw there Jack, very nice. I have a jaw like that but mines missing the teeth

[flyg]

I'm very amateur, but maybe consider various kinds of pelagic bony fish like tunas and billfish for the hypural. I've found a handful where I hunt, which is mainly Oligocene, and they look similar to yours.

 

This is a link to a question I posed a while back

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[Sacha]

Jack, is the jaw mineralized? I would bet gar from what we see in the river.

[Shellseeker]

49 minutes ago, Sacha said:

Jack, is the jaw mineralized? I would bet gar from what we see in the river.

It "seems", mineralized and it has the traditional black/brown color common in the Peace River. It seems as mineralized as the hyplural.  That is why I was hoping for an ID of the actual fish.  It the fish were Saltwater -- that would clinch as fossil.

If fish were freshwater such as Gar, then it might or might not be fossilized. I have been looking at Florida spotted GARs and their teeth vary in length and position.  However closer to the throat , they seem to line up at the smae small size.