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Plio/pleistocene or recent Sinistrofulgar?


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Hi all,

 

my grandpa recently gave me this snail shell he brought from a Florida holiday some decades ago (he said he "pulled it out of the ocean"; but that's all details I have on the finding situation).

 

I saw this post by Herb with Florida shells, one of which looks quite similar: 

For the one in my images I'm wondering whether it is a recent exemplar or a fossil one. In a German fossils forum where I showed the images someone tended to recent because of the slight color remnants.

 

On the other hand, it looks really similar to the fossil busycon contrarium I saw here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busycon_contrarium

 

Any hints regarding recent vs. fossil and more specific ID are highly welcome!
The Euro coin for scale is about 0.9 inch in diameter.

 

Many thanks in advance
Jan

 

P.S.: Very nice forum you have here!

 

 

 

 

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Welcome to the Forum. :)

 I can't help with your question, but there are those here who can. ;) 

 

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Thanks! 

Here is another clue: In the box in which the shell was kept I found what appears to be an opperculum. Based on its size it could belong to the shell.  I suspect oppercula are typically not found along with the shells of fossil snails found in the ocean? 

Jan

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You are correct concerning the preservation of the operculum.  Also based upon your grandfather telling you he pulled it out of the ocean I would call it recent Sinistrofulgur sinistrum (Hollister, 1958).

 

Mike

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Thanks Mike!  Still a nice  large shell. I'm thinking about removing the seapocks and bleaching the discolorations.

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Hi,

 

I can't help you but Mike knows very well shells !

 

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This is a special species, it spirals counter clockwise and has the aperture on the left, unlike most gastropods. Hermit crabs cannot live in shells of this species because of this anomaly.

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Looks like a Busycon sp.

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