mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Stone City Fm. Whiskey Bridge locality. Scale marks are mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusFossils Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Can we get a few more pictures? Marc Website: https://www.instagram.com/paleo_archives/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- “It is by no means an irrational fancy that, in a future existence, we shall look upon what we think our present existence, as a dream.” ― Edgar Allan Poe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I dont know what it is, but it is not squid beak. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusFossils Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, RJB said: I dont know what it is, but it is not squid beak. RB Agreed, this item bears no similarities to the squid beaks on Google Images Marc ------ P.S. Here's a squid beak: 1 Website: https://www.instagram.com/paleo_archives/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- “It is by no means an irrational fancy that, in a future existence, we shall look upon what we think our present existence, as a dream.” ― Edgar Allan Poe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 BELOSAEPIA FOSSILS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Eocene sepioid cephalopods - Belosaepia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It has the appearance of Belosaepia but the tube running across it makes me think it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Looks like 2 things cemented together with calcite. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 The tube is what is throwing me as well. It almost looks man made--like a piece of PVC pipe. But everything else about it screams fossil, including the bits of the interior structure that are visible. Most of my Whiskey Bridge finds are fairly easy to identify. But I keep going back to Belosaepia. For lack of any other thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Perhaps a small segment of Dentalium scaphalopod in conjunction with a cuttlefish beak? As ynot suggests. Lots of Dentalium in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 This item appears to be the umbo (hinge) of a clamshell, and the calcareous tube of a tube-worm, cemented together with an algal holdfast or a similar encrusting organism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacious Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, MarcusFossils said: Agreed, this item bears no similarities to the squid beaks on Google Images Marc ------ P.S. Here's a squid beak: Just a friendly cephalopod anatomy fyi: That google photo has the beak upside-down. Below is a Dosidicus gigas beak for comparison, with the correct orientation. The smaller beak actually goes on top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Crushed/burned PVC joint in resin? See if it burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 here's some more "cephalopod buccal mass" Uyenocepjalop_Kier_2005.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 14 hours ago, BobWill said: Crushed/burned PVC joint in resin? See if it burns. That was my thought, too. But it seems to be attached to something else that I can't make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 The tube has an inner diameter of only about 0.5 mm. I've never seen PVC that small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Another guess would be a gastropod fragment, the siphonal canal part which goes to the aperture. 3 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 this thing is only 3 or 4 mm; right? Am swayed by every respondent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Yes 3-4 mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 We can't let this thing kick us around like this! How about some end views? Can you tell anything about the yellow (orange?) coating? Is it a familiar mineral? Any similar colored rocks seen where you found it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Yes 3-4 mm Quote abyssunder has it. The shot taken from the end held the secret. Siphonal canal fragment of a gastropod cemented together with a scaphopod fragment. A bit disappointed, but I had fun with it. Thanks for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Chris Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Looks like two pieces of plastic pipe or tubing epoxied together. What is the white material made of? can you do a hardness test with a scribe to see if its soft like plastic, or hard like calcite? That would be helpful. Also, some acetic acid on the components will help illuminate thier composition if they bubble. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arizona Chris Paleo Web Site: http://schursastrophotography.com/fossiladventures.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Already been run through mild acetic acid for cleaning. Too small to do a hardness test without destroying it. Less than three mm in length. Definitely fossiliferous. Just not a cuttlefish beak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Almost looks like an otolith is trapped inside the gastropod fragment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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