Dinomaniac Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It is a callobrochatus frog fossil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Looks fake but it's difficult to tell, your closeup pictures are too small to have any diagnostic value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 The photos are not very helpful, but to me the fact that there are no vertebrae in the spinal column, just a double line, is pretty telling. Also the pelvic bones are wrong, the "skull" joins the "vertebral column" in an unnatural way, and so on. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I am very skeptical of any vertebrate material from China. With the exception of some Miocene mammal remains most Chinese "fossils" that I see for sale are fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The picture is too small. The fossil seems odd. On the off-chance it's real, I say there's heavy restoration. Can you get close-ups? Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinomaniac Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 It is a callobrochatus frog fossil. a real one looks like that search it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Dinomaniac said: It is a callobrochatus frog fossil. a real one looks like that search it up To answer your question, No - it is not real. I did search callobrochatus frog fossil. If you compare the one I found HERE, and the one you picture, it is quite obvious the one you posted is a poorly carved fake. They have very little in common I have to ask, why you are posting these? Are you looking to purchase this? 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Dinomaniac said: It is a callobrochatus frog fossil. a real one looks like that search it up Unfortunately, no one can look anything up unless the correct spelling is provided. This paper established Callobatrachus sanyanensis as a new genus and species: Wang, Y., & Gao, K. (1999) Earliest Asian discoglossid frog from western Liaoning. Chinese Science Bulletin, 44(7):636-642 LINK 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 With the exception of Lycoptera fish fossils, vertebrate material fro China is either fake, or contraband (very few exceptions have ever been made). This one is a fake: look at the "spinal column", as already mentioned. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The lack of any symmetry on the eyes is a big red flag. 1 ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinomaniac Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 yes I'm planning to buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Hopefully you're not planning to pay much for it. Maybe you can pay in Monopoly money: fake money for a fake fossil? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 There is not always perfect symmetry in the eyes of a true fossil toad... Like this one from the Miocene, discovered in Czechoslovakia: However, I spent many years studying and collecting fossils of Chinese vertebrates, and I can assure you that this fossil they offered you for sale is 100% fake and carved. Its value is merely artistic. See the true appearance of a Callobatrachus sanyanensis fossil: As you saw in the photo above, the lack of vertebrae in the spine, only double line, does not always indicate a red flag, in some cases may indicate only poor preservation. 2 Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Almost perfect symmetry is one thing that raises my eyebrows..... 3 John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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