Rock Lover Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Need help identifying this tooth like stone. Is it actually a fossilized tooth or what? I found it in Georgia around past Indian grounds and beside a river. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does not look like a tooth. Appears from photo to be a broken quartz rock. Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Not a tooth. Looks like chert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izak_ Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 @ynot??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ynot Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Agree with others that it is not a tooth. It looks like a quartz type rock but could be a calcite also. See if You can scratch it with a knife, if it scratches it is calcite - if it won't scratch then quartz. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It's a rock. (Indians live in India btw, some take offense to this. In the future use "Native American") 1 “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Rock Lover said: Need help identifying this tooth like stone. It's a toothlike stone. Pretty nice one. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, WhodamanHD said: Indians live in India btw, some take offense to this. In the future use "Native American" How do you know the "Indian grounds" she referenced is not the Patel's farm? Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, snolly50 said: How do you know the "Indian grounds" she referenced is not the Patel's farm? Ah yes, this is true. However in Georgia there is no farm known as Patel's farm in Georgia, although there is one in Miami. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 According to Whitepages.com there are 22,883 individuals with the name Patel listed for Georgia. Surely, at least a couple of them must own a farm. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, snolly50 said: According to Whitepages.com there are 22,883 individuals with the name Patel listed for Georgia. Surely, at least a couple of them must own a farm. You would think. A 2007 census showed very few farmers of any Asian descent in Georgia, no county having more than 26. Sadly no statistics on Georgian Indian farmers named Patel with rivers bearing quartz running through there properties exists. I feel as though this should be a top priority and should be brought to Georgia's governments attention immediately “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I assure you Georgia has an abundance of rivers flowing to the Mighty Atlantic. It is also very well supplied with red clay populated with quartz specimens of various sizes and configurations. Ergo, at least a couple of hard working Patels (of the almost 23K) are no doubt tilling that ruddy soil, kicking quartz rock aside and wondering why you are calling them Indians. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: You would think. A 2007 census showed very few farmers of any Asian descent in Georgia, no county having more than 26. Sadly no statistics on Georgian Indian farmers named Patel with rivers bearing quartz running through there properties exists. I feel as though this should be a top priority and should be brought to Georgia's governments attention immediately 6 minutes ago, snolly50 said: I assure you Georgia has an abundance of rivers flowing to the Mighty Atlantic. It is also very well supplied with red clay populated with quartz specimens of various sizes and configurations. Ergo, at least a couple of hard working Patels (of the almost 23K) are no doubt tilling that ruddy soil, kicking quartz rock aside and wondering why you are calling them Indians. Y'all is getting off subject here, this is not the place for that discussion. @Rock Lover, Have You done a hardness test as asked above? 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, ynot said: Y'all is getting off subject here, this is not the place for that discussion. @Rock Lover, Have You done a hardness test as asked above? Aw, I thought the discussion was completely relevant “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Aw, I thought the discussion was completely relevant To the identity of the stone? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, ynot said: To the identity of the stone? I was kidding, I get easily distracted. For the record I say quartz btw. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Lover Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 IOk. Thanks so much. Y'all are hilarious. My Dad tells me his grandfather is full blooded Cherokee "Indian" and I make no slanderous remarks so surely the Native Americans that might see this post will take no offense. If they do well they just want to be offended and I hate it. Lol Btw. I did the scratch test and blade wouldn't scratch so I used a quartz point to no avail so I broke out the quartz crystals and they did the trick. I couldn't figure out why the top had one side w distinct and directional lining but upon more observation I believe it was worked to look like a bird if you sit it just right. Which makes sense as to "where I found it" seeing that I found many of this nature just this one sits in the opposite direction from others and very unique. Portable rock art of the quartz nature. Not a fossilized tooth. Lol oh well at least I know now. Thanks. The sad thing is I have many more probably not fossil but some I know are. So I will humbly ask for more great knowledge if y'all are willing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Rock Lover said: IOk. Thanks so much. Y'all are hilarious. My Dad tells me his grandfather is full blooded Cherokee "Indian" and I make no slanderous remarks so surely the Native Americans that might see this post will take no offense. If they do well they just want to be offended and I hate it. Lol Btw. I did the scratch test and blade wouldn't scratch so I used a quartz point to no avail so I broke out the quartz crystals and they did the trick. I couldn't figure out why the top had one side w distinct and directional lining but upon more observation I believe it was worked to look like a bird if you sit it just right. Which makes sense as to "where I found it" seeing that I found many of this nature just this one sits in the opposite direction from others and very unique. Portable rock art of the quartz nature. Not a fossilized tooth. Lol oh well at least I know now. Thanks. The sad thing is I have many more probably not fossil but some I know are. So I will humbly ask for more great knowledge if y'all are willing. Rock Lover, Just remember, you will get better answers to your questions with: 1) Clear, close up pictures from all angles WITH some sort of scale for reference in the photos 2) As much detailed info as possible on the specimen (where found, known geology of area, any other relevant info you have on it, etc.) Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Rock Lover said: I broke out the quartz crystals and they did the trick. I couldn't figure out why the top had one side w distinct and directional lining but upon more observation I believe it was worked to look like a bird if you sit it just right. Which makes sense as to "where I found it" seeing that I found many of this nature just this one sits in the opposite direction from others and very unique. Portable rock art of the quartz nature Minerals of the same hardness will scratch each other. So Your piece is quartz. If it has been worked, it is most likely a core from a larger rock that was broken apart to get blanks for making tools. It does not look like an effigy, just a suggestive shape to this one. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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