Jump to content

Staten Island shell fossil ID


njcreekhunter

Recommended Posts

Hey everyone, many years ago my dad found these shell fossils on a beach in Staten Island New York. I was wondering if any of you shell experts would be able to identify them. Thank you!

 

-Mike

shell 2.PNG

shell 1.PNG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First one appears to be a Strophomenid  brachiopod. 

Second one has a few different types, but I cannot make out what they are. 

@Shamalama

  • I found this Informative 2

    Tim    -  VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER

   MOTM.png.61350469b02f439fd4d5d77c2c69da85.png      PaleoPartner.png.30c01982e09b0cc0b7d9d6a7a21f56c6.png.a600039856933851eeea617ca3f2d15f.png     Postmaster1.jpg.900efa599049929531fa81981f028e24.jpg    VFOTM.png.f1b09c78bf88298b009b0da14ef44cf0.png  VFOTM  --- APRIL - 2015  

__________________________________________________
"In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks."

John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~   ><))))( *>  About Me      

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The first one looks like a Leptaena sp. fragment, but I'm not familiar with the region.

  • I found this Informative 2

" We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. "

Thomas Mann

My Library

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The first one looks like Leptaena, a brachiopod. The other rock contains brachiopod fragments and a more complete Strophomerid, possibly Strophonella. The rocks are likely Lower Devonian in age  or possibly Silurian- between 400 and 430 million years old. Rocks like that were brought down by the great ice sheet that once reached as far south as New York harbor. They likely originated in bedrock somewhere in Upstate New York. 

  • I found this Informative 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jeff and abyssunder  are right, after  a closer look at the first one, I can see the wrinkles that mark it as a Leptaena . :blush:

And Jeff is more knowledgeable about brachiopods than I.

Good call, Gents. :)

  • I found this Informative 1

    Tim    -  VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER

   MOTM.png.61350469b02f439fd4d5d77c2c69da85.png      PaleoPartner.png.30c01982e09b0cc0b7d9d6a7a21f56c6.png.a600039856933851eeea617ca3f2d15f.png     Postmaster1.jpg.900efa599049929531fa81981f028e24.jpg    VFOTM.png.f1b09c78bf88298b009b0da14ef44cf0.png  VFOTM  --- APRIL - 2015  

__________________________________________________
"In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks."

John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~   ><))))( *>  About Me      

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Doesn't look like "glacial" outwash.  More likely brought down and dumped as rip rap from the Hudson Valley. 

 

Also, although Leptaena is a good guess I believe this is a different genus. 

  • I found this Informative 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with @erose on both points. I think this was imported material as fill and the Strophomenid type shell is another genus. The wrinkled surface does resemble Leptanea but that genus' shell has more regular wrinkles all along the top surface of the shell and then a 90 degree turn at the leading edge.  If you are able to see that hard edge then I would be more comfortable with Leptanea as the ID. The other shells are too fragmentary or lack enough detail for me to make a guess at ID.

 

But I do agree with @Jeffrey P that the rock and fossils are likely lower Devonian aged. They appear to be a limestone like rock and very few formations in Eastern PA, North NJ or Eastern NY are limestone except for the lower Devonian. Later in the period the rocks grade into shale and sandstone as the Catskill delta advanced and earlier rocks are either not exposed or are also shale or sandstone.

  • I found this Informative 2

-Dave

__________________________________________________

Geologists on the whole are inconsistent drivers. When a roadcut presents itself, they tend to lurch and weave. To them, the roadcut is a portal, a fragment of a regional story, a proscenium arch that leads their imaginations into the earth and through the surrounding terrain. - John McPhee

If I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPhee

Check out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

59c46bfec3bc5_shell2.thumb.PNG.c69edc320ff10ac8e0257246d081745b.jpg          59c46c044647f_shell1.thumb.PNG.e03f01ce3acef5a126e8b9f06303cde4.jpg

    Tim    -  VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER

   MOTM.png.61350469b02f439fd4d5d77c2c69da85.png      PaleoPartner.png.30c01982e09b0cc0b7d9d6a7a21f56c6.png.a600039856933851eeea617ca3f2d15f.png     Postmaster1.jpg.900efa599049929531fa81981f028e24.jpg    VFOTM.png.f1b09c78bf88298b009b0da14ef44cf0.png  VFOTM  --- APRIL - 2015  

__________________________________________________
"In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks."

John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~   ><))))( *>  About Me      

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, sharktoothboy said:

@Fossildude19@abyssunder@Jeffrey P@erose@Shamalama Thanks so much for the ID help! and thanks @Fossildude19 for editing the pics!

No problem. 

It's easier to ID them (well, for me, at least) when they are pictured from directly above, with the hinge at the top. ;) 

 

    Tim    -  VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER

   MOTM.png.61350469b02f439fd4d5d77c2c69da85.png      PaleoPartner.png.30c01982e09b0cc0b7d9d6a7a21f56c6.png.a600039856933851eeea617ca3f2d15f.png     Postmaster1.jpg.900efa599049929531fa81981f028e24.jpg    VFOTM.png.f1b09c78bf88298b009b0da14ef44cf0.png  VFOTM  --- APRIL - 2015  

__________________________________________________
"In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks."

John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~   ><))))( *>  About Me      

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...