Peace river rat Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 First off, apologies for low quality pics, only a lap top camera here. I was hoping some one can ID this oddball. My guess is some kind of osteoderm from a glyptodont or tortoise? I will try to update this thread with better pics. (have to get my friends smart phone and have them e mailed to my computer. Sorry double post, tried to delete it but cant seem to. Can a moderator please delete one post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Pics are a little tough but I’d say possible tortoise denticles that are attached 1 Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, jcbshark said: Pics are a little tough but I’d say possible tortoise denticles that are attached Is a denticle the same as an osteoderm? Is osteoderm (bone skin)? It sure is an odd find. Thanks jcbshark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 This looks like a pair of marginals from a glyptonont carapace Denticles are embryological teeth in origin. Osteoderms originate in the dermis. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I would take Harry’s opinion over my own, he’s a resident expert Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, jcbshark said: I would take Harry’s opinion over my own, he’s a resident expert He made me feel good! I suspected that was what is was (or tortoise) since I found it way back in early spring. I have learned quite a bit in my short time digging and can usually identify 95% of my finds. It drives me nuts not to know what something is. I go to bed, not quite losing sleep over it, but definitely pondering it! 1 hour ago, Harry Pristis said: This looks like a pair of marginals from a glyptonont carapace Denticles are embryological teeth in origin. Osteoderms originate in the dermis. Thanks Harry! Very imformative, this piece has puzzeled me for months! One more question, is a scute the same as an osteoderm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Peace river rat said: He made me feel good! I suspected that was what is was (or tortoise) since I found it way back in early spring. I have learned quite a bit in my short time digging and can usually identify 95% of my finds. It drives me nuts not to know what something is. I go to bed, not quite losing sleep over it, but definitely pondering it! you can always take pieces you question to some of the local fossil shows that occur around the state. I’ve taken a few pieces for IDs to the show at fort Meyers at the shell factory with stuff I’ve wondered about and Dr. Hulbert has been on hand to take a look at whatever was brought in Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, jcbshark said: you can always take pieces you question to some of the local fossil shows that occur around the state. I’ve taken a few pieces for IDs to the show at fort Meyers at the shell factory with stuff I’ve wondered about and Dr. Hulbert has been on hand to take a look at whatever was brought in I don't get out of Arcadia often, last season, Mark Renz had tour groups here often, I would always thank him for his "expert" opinion on my pieces, he was to humble to claim that title, but he did teach me quite a bit and took time to answer my questions, even though I am a local, not a client. A great guy! TFF has also taught me quite a bit. Thanks to all TFF members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Peace river rat said: I don't get out of Arcadia often, last season, Mark Renz had tour groups here often, I would always thank him for his "expert" opinion on my pieces, he was to humble to claim that title, but he did teach me quite a bit and took time to answer my questions, even though I am a local, not a client. A great guy! TFF has also taught me quite a bit. Thanks to all TFF members! I’ve never met him personally but his books helped me quite a bit when I got into hunting. I also tip a hat to all the members that help folks on here. It’s a great forum for sure 1 Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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