karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I’m so excited to share what I found today! I wish I had a pic of my face when I flipped this over!! would this be a meg? Wrightsville Beach— North carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Looks like one (or a close relative) to Me. Congratulations on the find. What size is it? 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Congratulations! Nice find! 1 I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I think it's a Meg. What a great find! Well done you! 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 It's obviously a Carcharocles, but I think that if it is a meg or a chub might need some more prepping. Otherwise, nice find! 1 If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Nice find, takes a good eye to spot something like that 1 Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 10 hours ago, ynot said: Looks like one (or a close relative) to Me. Congratulations on the find. What size is it? Ynot- thank you! I hope this pic helps with the size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Darktooth said: Congratulations! Nice find! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, jcbshark said: Nice find, takes a good eye to spot something like that Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Macrophyseter said: It's obviously a Carcharocles, but I think that if it is a meg or a chub might need some more prepping. Otherwise, nice find! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said: I think it's a Meg. What a great find! Well done you! Thanks! I was so excited!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 looks like an auriculatis with the side cusps broken off. Am liking the modern barnacle attachment and matrix. Keep in mind that some of the material at the beach is derived from the rip rap at the inlet which comes from Castle Hayne or Rocky Point quarries where Cretaceous and Eocene are exposed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Also; can you grasp the matrix gently (away from the tooth) with a pair of pliers to see if the matrix is macadam? There's a barely possible chance that the tooth was part of aggregate used in pavement. Am thinking that this suggestion sounds crazy to ya'll! Lots of teeth in our pavement around here. More likely just phosphatized rock of a lag deposit or hardground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Looks like it has a coral embedded into the root... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, Plax said: Also; can you grasp the matrix gently (away from the tooth) with a pair of pliers to see if the matrix is macadam? There's a barely possible chance that the tooth was part of aggregate used in pavement. Am thinking that this suggestion sounds crazy to ya'll! Lots of teeth in our pavement around here. More likely just phosphatized rock of a lag deposit or hardground. Plax - Yes, There are tons of teeth in our pavement!!! We can walk around our neighborhood and find sharks teeth!! LOL! The tooth is completely stuck.. I am afraid that it will hurt the tooth if I try to pull it off with pliers. Here are close up images of material around the tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Looking at it under the microscope I wouldn't be surprised if there might be other (partial) teeth in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, karenilm said: Plax - Yes, There are tons of teeth in our pavement!!! We can walk around our neighborhood and find sharks teeth!! LOL! The tooth is completely stuck.. I am afraid that it will hurt the tooth if I try to pull it off with pliers. Here are close up images of material around the tooth. Am I the only one who can visualize Karen, with her knee pads, safety glasses and gloves (safety 1st), running around her neighborhood using a 3lb maul and cold chisel to extract all the teeth she sees in the pavement? 1 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, SailingAlongToo said: Am I the only one who can visualize Karen, with her knee pads, safety glasses and gloves (safety 1st), running around her neighborhood using a 3lb maul and cold chisel to extract all the teeth she sees in the pavement? It certainly conjures up some interesting images. And the sound of police sirens. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I didn't want it grasped near the tooth! The idea being to pinch it a tad to see if it is slightly flexible or smears like macadam. Have posted pavement teeth on this forum previously. Kerosene or heat would probably dissolve teeth out of macadam but that's not to be recommended! Legal and safety issues with whatever is tried. Lots of asphalt enclosed teeth on my lunch walk here in Burgaw. We do agree it's auriculatis, no? Guess it could be angustidens if it's from the Oligocene just offshore and the dredge threw it up there. have been wrong before and will continue to be that way no doubt. Like everyone else I'm influenced by what I've experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Too funny that shark teeth can be found in tarmac. John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenilm Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 SAILING ALONG TOO - OMG you are so funny!!! You certainly hit the nail on the head!!!! LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeargleSchmeargl Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 9:57 PM, karenilm said: I’m so excited to share what I found today! I wish I had a pic of my face when I flipped this over!! would this be a meg? Wrightsville Beach— North carolina Definitely looks like a Meg. What a shame the tip's crunched. Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Whoa very nice find!!! Congrats! On 2/1/2018 at 5:35 AM, Macrophyseter said: It's obviously a Carcharocles, but I think that if it is a meg or a chub might need some more prepping. Otherwise, nice find! You mean Otodus, "Carcharocles" is one of the old name for the meg lineage Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Max-fossils said: You mean Otodus, "Carcharocles" is one of the old name for the meg lineage Sorry if I cause any problems saying this, but however, I don't agree that Otodus has fully replaced Carcharocles to warrant a correction on me, as as far as I know, the scientific community has not yet formally declared the genus a synonym (Many post 2017 papers still use Carcharocles, and the 2016 paper reintroducing it simply stated that a change may be likely but made no declarations). Even though it is likely that the genus Otodus may take over eventually, I'll still hold onto Carcharocles due to my biased dislike of the genus name Otodus untill the genus is formally struck down. I know biases are not a good thing, but everyone has preferences. Please remember that this is completely an opinion and should not be taken like fact. I am not saying that Otodus is invalid, but I am saying that I believe that neither genus is superior enough to correct the other when using either genus. If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Macrophyseter said: Sorry if I cause any problems saying this, but however, I don't agree that Otodus has fully replaced Carcharocles to warrant a correction on me, as as far as I know, the scientific community has not yet formally declared the genus a synonym (Many post 2017 papers still use Carcharocles, and the 2016 paper reintroducing it simply stated that a change may be likely but made no declarations). Even though it is likely that the genus Otodus may take over eventually, I'll still hold onto Carcharocles due to my biased dislike of the genus name Otodus untill the genus is formally struck down. I know biases are not a good thing, but everyone has preferences. Please remember that this is completely an opinion and should not be taken like fact. I am not saying that Otodus is invalid, but I am saying that I believe that neither genus is superior enough to correct the other when using either genus. Okay, no problem! I personally kinda like Otodus, so I don't mind the name change. But I know that often, habits die hard. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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