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Hi, i wish a good day for all of you.

I've visited another new place where i could find miocene plant material in a ligniteous clay.It had rain for days there and the place is covered by vegetation, so i only looked on the border of a road and i found those two items.

 

First photos are taken in daylight, others under a magnifying glass and artificial light. The scale is in centimeters.

 

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Hi, thank you for your answers.

I agree it is brecciated.

All the surroundings of that place are composed of ligniteous clay.

 

Here is an abstract from the file of the geology and mining research bureau :

"les argiles ligniteuses affleurant sur le territoire de la commune de Saint-Jammes, au Sud immédiat de la feuille Lembeye (1/50 000 Morlaàs), se sont révélées très fossilifères."

 

"the ligniteous clays showing on the territory of the municipality of Saint-Jammes, in the immediate South of the Lembeye sheet (1/50 000 Morlaàs), turned out to be very fossiliferous."

 

The composition of the clays and their palynological study shows a composition very similar with the ones of an abandoned lignite mine in a neighbour department. That old mine showed about 150 different species of plants.

So i hope to find some good pieces one day, in Saint-Jammes or in that old mine (but it's farer).

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Sorry, @Rockwood, what's Elmer, do you mean the tree (Elm) ? What can i do to stabilize them, must i moisture them ?

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I was afraid it might not be international enough. Here's what Wiki calls it. a popular PVA-based synthetic glue 

Commonly called white glue. Kid stuff. :)

Soak the finds in, or brush on, the mixture and they will harden as they dry.

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I've not found a PVA glue, but a glue for children which composition is : 1,2-benizisothiazol-3(2H)-one, 5 chloro-2-methyl-2H-isothiazol-3-one and 2-methyl-2H-isotiazol-3-one.

It's a varnish-glue for the paper that can be glued on most of the materials or to rigidified tissues and sand. There are images that shows you can stick paper on a terra cotta pot. It is said it is resistant to moisture and to washing.

 

Do you think it would be a good glue for this (i have very little chemical knowledge) ?

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2 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

Do you think it would be a good glue for this (i have very little chemical knowledge) ?

I would think solubility, or some suitable equivalent, in water would be important. Other than that I can only hope someone who knows will chime in.

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And if i used a basic varnish ?

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5 minutes ago, fifbrindacier said:

And if i used a basic varnish ?

Should never use varnish, it yellows over time.

 

Elmer's glue = water soluble white glue.

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You want to slowly dry them and then stabilize with Paraloid. Don’t use white glue unless they can’t handle a controlled dry as once set it is irreversible.

 

To control the drying rate, wrap your wet pieces in a damp towel (or damp newspaper). Then, wrap this in a dry towel. Repeat for all your pieces. Now place your pieces in a box with a lid and close them up for a couple weeks. 

 

After this process, you should have dry unstable pieces that you can coat with Paraloid dissolved in acetone (1:50 ratio). This is permanently reversible if needed and will not deteriorate as other glues will. 

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11 hours ago, JohnBrewer said:

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Elmer (Elmo’s cousin) Sesame Street 

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You all make me laugh so hard ! I thought it was a chunk o weed that was found .

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6 hours ago, Malone said:

You all make me laugh so hard ! I thought it was a chunk o weed that was found .

We just want her to be ready when she finds something that will put this to shame.

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1 minute ago, Rockwood said:

We just want her to be ready when she finds something that will put this to shame.

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Actual tears from laughing so hard!

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16 minutes ago, Malone said:

Actual tears from laughing so hard! Could you show that from different angles?

Sure, but I have to get back to work right now.

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1 minute ago, Rockwood said:

Sure, but I have to get back to work right now.

Have a good day. thanks,you already made mine better!

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6 hours ago, Malone said:
6 hours ago, Malone said:

Actual tears from laughing so hard! Could you show that from different angles?

Here are a few pieces.

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