SharkToothLover757 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I found this piece last weekend on the side of the James river. I cannot tell if it is old or just from an animal that died recently. The end of the curved piece reminds me of an animals tooth or possibly even a long nail. It is round with black on the outside. Very smooth like enamel. I really have no idea. Who are my smart fossil ppl out there who can identify it...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izak_ Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Its a rodent incisor. No idea what species though. Kinda looks like a fossil to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Large rodent tooth. Muskrat or beaver 4 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Geepers! Did my toenail land way over there?! Sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peat Burns Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, caldigger said: Geepers! Did my toenail land way over there?! Sorry. Lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I’d bet muskrat. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 @MarcoSr may have an idea or suggestion. I know he has gone through quite a bit of micro matrix from ant hills that had a bunch of rodent fossils in it. Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeargleSchmeargl Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 15 hours ago, SharkToothLover757 said: I found this piece last weekend on the side of the James river. I cannot tell if it is old or just from an animal that died recently. The end of the curved piece reminds me of an animals tooth or possibly even a long nail. It is round with black on the outside. Very smooth like enamel. I really have no idea. Who are my smart fossil ppl out there who can identify it...?! That looked like a rib at first to me, but it does seem to be a rodent incisor. Beyond that, it's difficult for me to identify. Not a rodent expert. Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, MeargleSchmeargl said: That's a rib. Beyond that, it's difficult to identify. No it is not a rib. The curve is to pronounced and uniform. The left end (first picture) shows a classic chisel tip of a rodent tooth. And the structural groove running the inside length is indicative of rodent teeth. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeargleSchmeargl Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, ynot said: No it is not a rib. The curve is to pronounced and uniform. The left end (first picture) shows a classic chisel tip of a rodent tooth. And the structural groove running the inside length is indicative of rodent teeth. Corrected. My bad. Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, SailingAlongToo said: @MarcoSr may have an idea or suggestion. I know he has gone through quite a bit of micro matrix from ant hills that had a bunch of rodent fossils in it. It is a rodent incisor like others have said. It looks about 20 times the size of the incisors that I see in ant hill matrix so it is from a big rodent. Marco Sr. 2 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hey, can I also say it is a large rodent incisor? Yup. Large means only beaver, porcupine, muskrat... could be tough to ID any further without a good mammology textbook. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, jpc said: Hey, can I also say it is a large rodent incisor? Sure, why not! Join the bandwagon! The more the merrier! Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, jpc said: Hey, can I also say it is a large rodent incisor? Yup. Large means only beaver, porcupine, muskrat... could be tough to ID any further without a good mammology textbook. Made me think of the song "Muskrat Love" Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkToothLover757 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Ok everyone. So most of you were correct. I had a guy who traps beavers take a look at it and it is a large beavers tooth!! Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Recently found... Peace River... Beaver ??? Capybara ?? The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: Recently found... Peace River... Beaver ??? Capybara ?? Does not look rodent to Me. No curve. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, ynot said: Does not look rodent to Me. No curve. Seem like it must be rodent... what are the other choices for a tusk/tooth that has been gnawed down on an angle with forward facing enamel? I assume we are broken... Does seeing the curve not depend on how much of the tooth I find? The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: Seem like it must be rodent... what are the other choices for a tusk/tooth that has been gnawed down on an angle with forward facing enamel? I assume we are broken... Does seeing the curve not depend on how much of the tooth I find? The first set did not show the curve. I change My above opinion, looks like a beaver. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I think it would be good to know the dimensions of it (of the specimen in question). It really looks in the castor line. picture from here " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, abyssunder said: I think it would be good to know the dimensions of it (of the specimen in question). It really looks in the castor line. picture from here The tooth fragment is approximately 65x23 mm. I do not have it in hand but will attempt to get a more precise measurement. I was struck by the narrow width and thought it more likely capybara than GIANT beaver. @PrehistoricFlorida has a gorgeous 3 and 3/8th inch Capybara incisor up on ebay. The more I stare at his, the more I think this on is also Capybara. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Your specimen is most likely Capybara incisor fragment, Jack. I was referring to the OP's tooth, saying "the specimen in question". " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 7:36 PM, Shellseeker said: The tooth fragment is approximately 65x23 mm. I do not have it in hand but will attempt to get a more precise measurement. I was struck by the narrow width and thought it more likely capybara than GIANT beaver. @PrehistoricFlorida has a gorgeous 3 and 3/8th inch Capybara incisor up on ebay. The more I stare at his, the more I think this on is also Capybara. Your tooth is indeed capybara. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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