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Hi
Below please find some pictures of a toe bone that was found in the Hell Creek formation. Unfortunately I do not have a straight top view or front view.
Given the size of 15cm (6 inch), is it save to assume that this is a t-rex phalanx?

 

 

 

 

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Yeah I'd say this looks like T. rex. Looks most like the first phalange of toe 2 or 3.

 

Here are some reference photos of the Trix specimen, though the feet are casts of Sue.

 

Left foot.

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Right foot.

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More good reference.

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I would agree with this and would lean more towards digit 3 however a ventral view would help to confirm this, also very nice piece was it a personal find?

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24 minutes ago, Haravex said:

also very nice piece was it a personal find?

It's on our favourite auction site.

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I checked out the specimen on eBay and they don't have any additional pictures to add to this discussion.

I don't believe the photos are adequate to confirm this is Rex there are a few red flags.  The dimple on the Dorsal side just behind the knuckle is not present..  The proximal end on Phalanx 1 really flares out all around Digit III or II and it's hard to determine that other than the ventral side, need a dorsal view.  The dorsal side by the distal end is pretty flat  which on the examples shown it pretty rounded.  The ventral side on the Rex examples are much more U shaped than the specimen which is flatter.  Not saying it's not one just need straight on views and the distal side may be very worn.   

 

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I can check if I can get more pictures. 

Is there another dino in Hell Creek with really large toes (and a similar shape)? Thescelosaurus or nanotyrannus would have smaller phalanges, right?

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Thescelosaurus is not very big. It also has quite different toe bones. The dimples on the sides we see here are also pretty typical for theropods.

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14 hours ago, jpc said:

Could this be an Anzu toe bone?  I think it is too big for that.  

Agree, I have some very large toe bones that look like they belong to Rex but are not.  If there is a giant oviraptorid in the Hell Creek like Larsen belives there is might fit that.  Again need a better look at this one.

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Great photos.

I asked Pete Larsen and its T -rex, Right Digit II, 1st phalange.   The features that I mentioned are not fully formed similar to Sue/Stan images because this is from a sub-adult specimen, nice.  All about ontogenetic changes 

 

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13 hours ago, Troodon said:

Great photos.

I asked Pete Larsen and its T -rex, Right Digit II, 1st phalange.   The features that I mentioned are not fully formed similar to Sue/Stan images because this is from a sub-adult specimen, nice.  All about ontogenetic changes 

 

Thank you very much for checking with Pete Larsen.
I am happy to have a t-rex fossil in my collection (even though a giant, undescribed oviraptor would have been intriguing as well). :D

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