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So, occasionally at work I scour the land for fossils.  The land for the port of Tampa has been dredged up from the gulf of mexico, and I have found numerous fossils and artifacts.  I have ran across two of the specimens that I'm showing you now. It's something geological, I can assure you.  I can't find any answers in the UF books or websites for what this may be. I think it is more recent as it has been found with modern bivalves. It is encased with limestone which fisses with vinegar, but the actual ball does not. It is a sphere, but not perfect.  Help me figure this one out, or at least point me in the right direction!

 

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I don't know what it really is but it does remind me of a plant gall and also part of a marine alga. Do you think it could be hollow inside?? You probably would have mentioned it if it was, but I had to ask. Or maybe it's a dinosaur egg. Or a golf ball. :P

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Man made - Google ceramic tumbling balls.

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Sorry, have to disagree with ceramic tumbling balls. Doesn’t make any sense for location it was found.  Definitely not hollow.  I dunno at this point.  I’ve written a couple of my geology professors, to see their opinions.

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I think it's a concretion covered in a calcium carbonate deposit. 

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Reminds me of a lacrosse ball, but perhaps that’s just the Maryland in me.

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I would say medium from a ball mill as well.

Why do you say it doesn't fit the area?

 

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Have you considered looking into pearls?

It is not out of the realm of possibilities.

 

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plinthosella resonans is a sponge found in Denmark around 63-70 mya. and resembles your find quite a bit.

 

This one is around 30 mm in diameter, but they range from 10mm up to 80mm or so, when they are first exposed they have a light cover of chalk above the flint/chert whitch eventually wears off.

 

You would have to have a look yourself whether or not you have a similar sponge over there

 

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Well, sorry about immediately disregarding that it may not be geological.  I was hitting the bottle last night, and tend to get a little stubborn :doh!:

 

I suppose it could be ball mill media, hadn’t really thought of that.  My main concern was that it was encased with limestone.  I suppose if the ball mill was used to crush limestone, this may be the origin?  I don’t know...I’ll do a proper hardness test on it when I get home.

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Also, funny someone should say pearl(although I doubt it) I found it along side a perfect Mercenaria Mercenaria...or what I assume to be.  I’ll take a pick of this when I get home.  We were joking at work that it was a huge pearl...always the dreamer!

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These ceramic balls fool lots of collectors, especially artifact collectors.  Apparently, because they are chemically inert and sooo hard, they are casually discarded after use in a ball mill.  Alternatively, a few balls in each used batch may be saved as novelties or conversation pieces.

 

 

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Very interesting.  But, I’ll still have to run a few tests :shrug:

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The bedrock of Florida is riddled with caves, pockets, and voids (sinkholes pop up all the time). MAYBE its a cave pearl. 

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cave pearl, that was also my thought, but it should have reacted with vinegar, which doesn't seem to be the case: "It is encased with limestone which fisses with vinegar, but the actual ball does not" as joshua said; maybe he should test with a more concentrated HCl

 

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Now cave pearl is an interesting idea.  What’s really getting me is the encrusted limestone.  I’ve looked at it under my stereomicroscope, and it seems to be a part of the sphere.  So...that keeps throwing me off.

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Fossilized ping pong ball? :doh!: But seriously, I have no idea. But, I am very interested in seeing what it may turn out to be.

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I believe this is Mercenaria Mercenaria.  Probably modern, I think?  Still cool little find for the port of Tampa.  I imagine this was dredged up from the gulf when they obtained the land to build the port.  

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So, a quick tally would be 3 for ceramic media, 3 for golf ball(:hearty-laugh:), 3 for a ‘pearl’ in name only, 1 for sponge, and my personal favorite-fossilized ping pong ball.

 

You guys are quickly making me look like a fool!  My capstone geology professor told me to crack it open, lol...NO, I’ve lost many a good fossils that way...don’t ask.

 

ill let you guys know the results of the hardness test, and I’ll see if any more of this sucker actually fizzes-now that I haven’t been hitting the bottle(yet). O_O

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1 hour ago, joshuajbelanger said:

I believe this is Mercenaria Mercenaria.  Probably modern, I think?  Still cool little find for the port of Tampa.  I imagine this was dredged up from the gulf when they obtained the land to build the port.  

Looks more like a fossil Southern quahog Mercenaria campechiensis. Found a bunch on Sanibel Island in a construction site. 

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18 minutes ago, mikeymig said:

Looks more like a fossil Southern quahog Mercenaria campechiensis. Found a bunch on Sanibel Island in a construction site. 

Thanks @mikeymig, man...you have a lot of IPFOTHM tags behind your name!  I found these two sections about a foot away from each other, and the ball in the middle. It is very rare that I find any whole invertebrate at the port, let alone two sections of one.  I've actually been trying to improve my invertebrate collections.  I live in South Tampa, let me know if you are ever interested in getting together for a hunt.

 

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Just now, joshuajbelanger said:

Thanks @mikeymig, man...you have a lot of IPFOTHM tags behind your name!  I found these two sections about a foot away from each other, and the ball in the middle. It is very rare that I find any whole invertebrate at the port, let alone two sections of one.  I've actually been trying to improve my invertebrate collections.  I live in South Tampa, let me know if you are ever interested in getting together for a hunt.

 

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Thanks for the invite. Been to Sanibel and Cayo Costa Key 3 times in the past 2 years so I just may take you up on it. Im building a shell collection but Im always looking for fossils. :)

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