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On 5/28/2018 at 8:18 AM, Nimravis said:

Thanks Tony

:thumbsu: No problem, glad to help.

 

Wish Mine would have some of those in them, so far only blanks.

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22 minutes ago, Nimravis said:

am thinking it is Elonichthys peltigerus.

Beautiful fish despite the breakage! 

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Wow, I'm a big fan of that fish too, even shattered. It has a real sense of liveliness to it.

 

Those massive nodules from last page blew my mind! I haven't found anything bigger than my palm at Mazon Creek. And there was some good quality plant material in yours too. 

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10 minutes ago, deutscheben said:

Wow, I'm a big fan of that fish too, even shattered. It has a real sense of liveliness to it.

 

Those massive nodules from last page blew my mind! I haven't found anything bigger than my palm at Mazon Creek. And there was some good quality plant material in yours too. 

Thanks- some of the plant preservation is good, but others leave something to be desired. 

 

I just wish the concretion that the fish is in was not one of the ones that like to shatter. It is hard to explain what I mean by that, but there are some concretions that you can pound on and don’t break, there are some that you pound on and they break perfectly along a plain line, there are some that are real crappy and just blow apart and there is nothing in them and then you have this type of concretion that can shatter. I can always tell what type of concretion it is from the first strike of the hammer, sometimes that is too much.

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Shame about the fish breaking, but equally it's a wonderful thing, rather lovely, I think. 

I love the bivalves as well. :)

But that fish is still very special. 

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Here is today's installment of some of finds that I found today, unlike yesterday, nothing real cool.

 

It is a real pain when you have a nice shaped concretion that cracks perfectly in the middle and it is void of a fossil. Here are two examples:

 

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Sometimes concretions do not crack along the center, and this is a reason why you have to be careful when cracking them open, as with this Neuropteris fern.

 

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Then there are some that crack open perfectly in the center and expose the fossil, as with this concretion that contains a Myalina clam.

 

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Here are some other Myalina clams that popped open today.

 

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A concretion with multiple Myalina clams.

 

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Here are some different ferns that opened.

 

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Calamites

 

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Bark 

 

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Coprolite

 

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Lycopod leaf

 

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I hope you washed your hands after all that! ;)

Some reasonable pieces, good for exchanges and gifts, lots of people would be very happy with a couple of those. 

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Here are a couple finds from today, my favorite piece was a cone. The concretion that it was in is about 13 cm long and the cone is 10 cm long. The preservation of the cone is not the greatest because there appears to be some crystal inclusion. I believe that this cone might possibly be Macrostachya sp., but I am not positive. @fiddlehead Jack can yo take a look at the pics below and let me know what you think? I have never found a Calamostachys sp. this large, that is the only reason that I do not think it is one. 

 

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Here are the other finds from today:

 

Pecopteris / Neuropteris Ferns:

 

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Lycopod Leaves

 

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Lepidostrobophyllum majus bracts

 

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Bark

 

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The cone is a Lepidostrobus variabilis. A brief description would be; The bracts are borne at a right angle to the axis, and their ends turn toward the apex of the cone. Individual bracts seldom can be discerned, and give the cone a feathery appearance. Unlike other lycopsid cones, they are often found nearly complete. The name is considered a morphotaxon by many researchers and is thought to represent several natural taxa. Cones of this type can only be separated further by study of the enclosed spores. 

Hope this helps,

Jack

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Nice cone! 

That's a real giant, and after the fish, things are definitely looking up. :)

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Some sweet stuff in this batch.

18 hours ago, Nimravis said:

Pecopteris / Neuropteris Ferns:

For some reason I particularly like this small round nodule, like a locket with photos inside.

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2 hours ago, Innocentx said:

Some sweet stuff in this batch.

For some reason I particularly like this small round nodule, like a locket with photos inside.

I agree, Small concretions are my favorite and hold great fossils.

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4 hours ago, fiddlehead said:

The cone is a Lepidostrobus variabilis. A brief description would be; The bracts are borne at a right angle to the axis, and their ends turn toward the apex of the cone. Individual bracts seldom can be discerned, and give the cone a feathery appearance. Unlike other lycopsid cones, they are often found nearly complete. The name is considered a morphotaxon by many researchers and is thought to represent several natural taxa. Cones of this type can only be separated further by study of the enclosed spores. 

Hope this helps,

Jack

Thanks Jack, I appreciate it very much.

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I had some family matters to take care of, so I have not been able to open any concretions until today. I went looking through some buckets and found a bucket of concretions that I had collected in May of 2002 from Pit 4. These concretions I had cleaned up and sorted before putting them away, many as you will see were small and contained some nice things. I would guess to say that I had about a 90% success rate in finding something.

 

Here are what some of the unopened concretions looked like.

 

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Here are some Neuropteris Ferns

 

Here is my favorite Neuropteris from today.

 

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More......

 

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Sometimes they crack open close to the outer area.

 

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Others open perfectly.

 

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Alethopteris

 

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Annularia

 

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Sometimes concretions have multiple layers surrounding the concretion like the one below.

 

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Pecopteris Fern

 

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My favorite find of the day was this Lepidostrobophyllum majus 

 

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I believe that this is Lepidostrobophyllum triangulare

 

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Bark

 

 

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Myalina Clam

 

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Lycopod Leaves

 

 

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Other finds from today.

 

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Here are two things that I need to check into- not positive on what these are, I believe the first one is a fern.

 

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Not sure on this one.

 

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13 minutes ago, Peat Burns said:

Holy cow, Ralph!  The detail on those is exquisite!:dinothumb:

Thanks Tony, these ones cracked open very nicely today. Pit 4 always yielded nice stuff, but some times the preservation was not the best.

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Some amazing finds, here, Ralph. 

I'm enjoying this thread. 

Thanks for posting these.

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20 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Some amazing finds, here, Ralph. 

I'm enjoying this thread. 

Thanks for posting these.

No problem Tim, I am glad that I am starting to go through these concretions, it's just going to take a long time.

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When I first opened this, I looked and thought it was a Scorpion, but upon looking at it a little closer it looks like a cone portion.

 

UPDATE:  I contacted Jack @fiddlehead on this piece and he stated that it is a cone from Sphenophyllum emaginatum named Bowmanites germanicus.

 

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