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Possible Vert, but from what


bbrosen

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North Sulphur River find from 5/27/18

Think it's a vertebra but it's not one I recognize,  its 4.75 inches wide, 3.25 inches high.

Pretty badly beat up from rolling around the river. 20180527_220431.thumb.jpg.be926975d8521f5d928a5a3afcfdbd6c.jpg

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Yes, looks like one.

It is very damaged. I think the only possible ID is from knowing the most common vertebra found In that area.

The chances are it’s from that.

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Could be a really worn Mosasaur vertebra since they are found quite often in north sulphur river. Let see what the experts say. But anyways nice find:).

Life started in the ocean. And so did my interest in fossils;).

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It looks like a worn mosasuar vert.

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Mosasaur is very common there, but it does not look like any of the aquatic verts I have found. The disc side is flat, unlike all the other verts I have found. As soon as I picked it up I immediately did not recognize it to be mosasaur. The growth wrinkles or patterns look odd as well..perhaps it is aquatic, just looks different 

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The flat articular surface and ovoid shape are much more consistent with plesiosaur vertebrae than mosasaur vertebrae.

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they also get Pleistocene there; no? The porosity looks mammalian to me. Not saying it is; just suggesting that it may not be Cretaceous.

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If it is Cretcaeous, it is defintely not a mosasaur (see Carl's asnwer).  Plesiosaur, yes maybe.  Are the local Pleistocene bones well mineralized?  Is this bone well mineralized?  

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I agree with Plax, this looks more mammalian.  What does the other broken side look like?

 

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For me, it is not inconsistent with Mammoth cervical vertebra that is missing the epiphysis.

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The fourth photo shows a quite distinct nutrient groove and with the positioning of the broken attachment to its right looks to be a neck vertebra.

Unsure what other animals have that large a nutrient groove but it fits in with the pliosaur family and the bone density would also fit in with what I have seen of that group.

As has been said before what animals have been found in that area ?

 

Mike 

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Mosasaur, Plesiosaur. And various other fish. Mammoth molars, mammoth enamel are found but not as common. A friend of mine found a whole baby mammoth molar 2 years ago there. 

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Thanks for the image, but do you have one with light on the broken surface?  

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Does this help, John?

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"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

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This image of a Plesiosaur vert from the 'net shows "puckering"...
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...similar to that on the mystery vert:

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The articulating surface, though, is more concave...

 

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The broken back is fibrous, and I will upload a better photo, it's all I had while I was at work. I appreciate all the input. I thought it might be mammal, maybe Bison, and long shot mammoth. 

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This is much more wider and spread out, less circular and drum like like the Plesiosaur Vert that was posted earlier. 

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Thanks for the excellent photos!  The texture of the broken bone definitely suggests marine reptile.  Not sure which one, but the "flat" side could be the eroded concave side of a large mosasaur vertebra.

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