matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) Hey, I was digging a fish pond and found this fragment stuck in a piece of dirt..location of the finding site is in Europe, north-west Croatia (part of the country that was under the Pannonian sea) is this even a fossil? can it be part of sum seashell or teeth maybe? I know my find is not spectacular and this is a mere curiosity, but I love nature and my surroundings, and I want to know it better Measurements are in metric system (centimetres and millimetres) first pictures front and back sides up&down , Edited June 4, 2018 by matijama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Welcome to TFF! Looks like a cow or bison tooth. Nice find. Should be other fossils there also, keep Your eyes open. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 +1 for Bovine, nice find! And welcome to TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 thank you! I checked, bisons really did roam Europe..I live in rural area, is there a way to find out is that bison teeth or just remains of sum farmers dead cow buried here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 This bovid tooth does not date to the Miocene Panonian Sea, but is much more recent. The stylid appears to be well attached, which would indicate that it is Bos, rather than Bison, and is thus from the modern era. 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 there goes my Indiana Jones career thank you for quick info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 also, Admin, feel free to delete this theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 @matijama Why would they do that? This helps everyone to learn more! I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Auspex said: The stylid appears to be well attached, which would indicate that it is Bos, rather than Bison, and is thus from the modern era. What about an aurochs ? 29 minutes ago, matijama said: is there a way to find out is that bison teeth or just remains of sum farmers dead cow buried here? How deep was it buried? Was it close to the surface? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 the pond is 2,5 meters deep..i noticed it when it was already on the surface, so i cant tell how deep it was.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, ynot said: What about an aurochs ? If it is large enough (Aurochs was BIG). 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, matijama said: also, Admin, feel free to delete this theme This topic is very interesting, and very useful! For us, it is the discussion, not the result. Besides, it could be from an Aurochs, from the Iron Age or before! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Auspex said: If it is large enough (Aurochs was BIG). Looks like His is 3 or 3.5 cm wide. That matches Your example pretty well. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 @Darktooth @Auspex I agree, sorry for rushing, this thread has become quite interesting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 @Darko has some finds from the Pannonia sea, if you click the tag it will take to his profile and you can find some pictures there. 1 “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It's a prehistoric Boss cheek tooth. Nice find! " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 right now, the dilemma is; is it a prehistoric boss such as auroch or just a regular cow? maybe I should ask a local veterinarian, he should know is it a regular cow tooth.. I measured it again, it is 2.7 cm wide, and the whole diameter is 8.2cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 5 hours ago, matijama said: right now, the dilemma is; is it a prehistoric boss such as auroch or just a regular cow? maybe I should ask a local veterinarian, he should know is it a regular cow tooth.. I measured it again, it is 2.7 cm wide, and the whole diameter is 8.2cm It looks like Bos primigenius.Very nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 17 hours ago, matijama said: Hey, I was digging a fish pond and found this fragment stuck in a piece of dirt..location of the finding site is in Europe, north-west Croatia (part of the country that was under the Pannonian sea) is this even a fossil? can it be part of sum seashell or teeth maybe? I know my find is not spectacular and this is a mere curiosity, but I love nature and my surroundings, and I want to know it better Measurements are in metric system (centimetres and millimetres) first pictures front and back sides up&down , Welcome to The Fossil Forum from Serbia.First of all nice find! Second,it couldn't be from miocene period,it's more like pleistocene.It could be from a Bos or Bison.But my opinion is that maybe is from Bos primigenius taurus.My friend has found similar tooth and it's from a Bos ,here in Serbia.Very nice colours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 12:49 PM, matijama said: there goes my Indiana Jones career thank you for quick info! So let's see, starting from the first we have... "Raiders of the Lost Auroch" ( My favorite) "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Moo" "Indiana Jones and the Last Round Up" And lastly, "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Cow Horn" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matijama Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, caldigger said: So let's see, starting from the first we have... "Raiders of the Lost Auroch" ( My favorite) "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Moo" "Indiana Jones and the Last Round Up" And lastly, "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Cow Horn" yep, raiders of the lost auroch actually sounds like a good movie! jokes aside, i must explore finding site as soon as weather lets me (heavy rain last 2 days), i remember seeing one smaller bone there too...raiders of the lost auroch will ride again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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