caldigger Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Recieved a bundle of Mazon Creek nodules and found one I can't seem to ID. Object is 3cm across and comes up to a shallow cone shape similar to a very old volcano/cinder cone. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Is the centre of the cone filled with fecal pellets?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 When the snow melts in the spring I find the remains of the pockets that roughed grouse spend the night in. They always leave a pile of pellets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Thinking its a tad small for grouse. I can't be sure what is in the center. If they were fecal pellets, they are now stone like the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, caldigger said: Thinking its a tad small for grouse. Behaviorally speaking. There is also a morphological similarity. Lateral thinkers will understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Looks almost sponge like, given its location I think perhaps @Nimravis could shed some light on it. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 That is very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 hours ago, westcoast said: Is the centre of the cone filled with fecal pellets?? It does look like fecal pellets that are some times found associated with Mazon Creek leeches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 @fiddlehead and @RCFossils what do you two think? Does not look familiar to me and like @westcoast stated, it does have something similar to fecal pellets in the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Hey Lori, how cool would that be...Poop on a Cone?! I'll take a double scoop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Very curious and interesting. If not for those little things in the center I’d have said it was only a concretion. @WhodamanHD I think it resembles a sponge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongy Joe Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Cross-section through a Lepidostrobus cone or similar? Doesn't look like a sponge to me, but those lines out to the sides suggest plant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, Spongy Joe said: Cross-section through a Lepidostrobus cone or similar? Doesn't look like a sponge to me, but those lines out to the sides suggest plant... I know it isn’t sponge it just bears some resemblance to on from other geologic periods though. I assume the other cone features are buried in the concretion rather than being weather worn. Still very cool that it’s a come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I remembered a topic a while back that had these two sponges, one Pleistocene and one undated. @abyssunder posted one of them. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, westcoast said: Is the centre of the cone filled with fecal pellets?? That's what they look like to me - COOL! Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Now that is really cool indeed!! Could they be ostracods? http://www.georgesbasement.com/Langford-WilmingtonCoalFlora/Webpage/OstracodaAviculopectenmazonensisGyromicesammonisP88.htm Curious to see what RC and the others say...Regards, Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, caldigger said: Hey Lori, how cool would that be...Poop on a Cone?! I'll take a double scoop. I was thinking more of a poop volcano or petrified sphincter! I've been reading about sponges lately and how critters lived inside them. Even if this isn't a sponge, perhaps a little critter lived in there, or at the very least used it as a Carboniferous outhouse. 1 Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Certainly looks like ostracods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'm still leaning towards fecal pellets, similar to the ones on a leech of mine below, but ostracods could be a possibility or we all could be wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Bergaueria isp. would be my best guess. FIGURE 8—Bergaueria and cf. Biformites isp. (A) Bergaueria cf. perata—PE 51561. (B–D) Bergaueria radiata: (B) PE 51620a with centrally located cylindrical iron concretion. (C) PE 51620b. (D) PE 51620c. (E) cf. Biformites isp.—PE 51656 excerpt from D. J. LoBue. 2010. Ichnotaxonomic Assessment of Mazon Creek Area Trace Fossils, Illinois, USA. Thesis. 3 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Nimravis said: I'm still leaning towards fecal pellets, similar to the ones on a leech of mine below, but ostracods could be a possibility or we all could be wrong Now that's cool!!! Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, GeschWhat said: Now that's cool!!! Yes, it is cool when that occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, GeschWhat said: or at the very least used it as a Carboniferous outhouse. Like maybe it dove into the mud for the night/day then in the morning/evening had a good constitutional and took off ? Sort of the way roughed grouse do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Like maybe it dove into the mud for the night/day then in the morning/evening had a good constitutional and took off ? Sort of the way roughed grouse do. You'll have to photograph those grouse latrines for me next spring Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, GeschWhat said: You'll have to photograph those grouse latrines for me next spring Stand by. I think I just need to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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