Fredaf404 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Hello! I found this on the beach in Bay Head, NJ. Is this some kind of tooth? Any ideas what kind? I have additional photos if that would be helpful. Thanks in advance! Edited June 15, 2018 by Fredaf404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Welcome to TFF! Not a tooth. Looks like a bone fragment. Pictures of the back and sides may help with an ID. Please include a scale. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredaf404 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, ynot said: Welcome to TFF! Not a tooth. Looks like a bone fragment. Pictures of the back and sides may help with an ID. Please include a scale. Thanks for the response! Here are a couple more angles, and a shot with a scale: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caldigger Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Some sort of turtle carapace piece? I'm not familiar with the spikes on this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Thanks for the additional pictures. The 2 spikes make me think it is part of a fish. Wait for others to reply. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, ynot said: Thanks for the additional pictures. The 2 sikes make ame think it is part of a fish. Wait for others to reply. Now that you mention it, it does have more of a fishy texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Welcome to the forum! Pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Al Dente @MarcoSr Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I’m thinking horseshoe crab bit. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 It looks modern; I think it's part of a fish. It doesn't really remind me of a horseshoe crab. “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 The bone has a fish-like texture. The two teeth are odd. I haven’t seen anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Hi, Both points look like teeth, but the rest reminds me a part of fish skull. I can't say if it is current or fossilized. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Perhaps they are not oral teeth, but denticles. This is an odd piece for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Al Dente said: The two teeth are odd. 2 hours ago, Coco said: Both points look like teeth, The two spikes do not look like teeth to Me. I think that it is skull piece from a "bullhead" fish. Pictures from internet search. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I agree with Eric that the texture is fish-like. I believe that the specimen also looks modern. Modern fish bone can turn black in a very short period of time but should have a smell to it. I haven't seen anything like it before either. Marco Sr. "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, ynot said: The two spikes do not look like teeth to Me. I think that it is skull piece from a "bullhead" fish. Pictures from internet search. The only issue with that ID being that on sculpins, the Spikes are oriented towards the posterior of the fish. In this item, the spikes are perpendicular to the bone. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: The only issue with that ID being that on sculpins, the Spikes are oriented towards the posterior of the fish. In this item, the spikes are perpendicular to the bone. OK, maybe something like this... I still think it is a fish skull piece, just not sure what fish. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 In the first pic the one on the right appears to arch backwards. Maybe the tips are broken off, giving them the appearance of not angling as sharply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, ynot said: OK, maybe something like this... That was also what I thought, a lionfish. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, abyssunder said: That was also what I thought, a lionfish. It looks very alike to lionfish, but I feel like it is too broad to be from it. “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredaf404 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/16/2018 at 6:08 AM, Al Dente said: The bone has a fish-like texture. The two teeth are odd. I haven’t seen anything like it. On 6/16/2018 at 7:04 AM, Coco said: Hi, Both points look like teeth, but the rest reminds me a part of fish skull. I can't say if it is current or fossilized. Coco On 6/16/2018 at 8:50 AM, old bones said: Perhaps they are not oral teeth, but denticles. This is an odd piece for sure. Thanks to all for the warm welcome and all the input! The texture does resemble that of fish bone fragments I've found. The spines are what threw me off...they look like teeth, but it definitely doesn't seem like a jawbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredaf404 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/16/2018 at 9:20 AM, MarcoSr said: I agree with Eric that the texture is fish-like. I believe that the specimen also looks modern. Modern fish bone can turn black in a very short period of time but should have a smell to it. I haven't seen anything like it before either. Marco Sr. It does have a very faint fishy smell to it. On 6/16/2018 at 9:28 AM, Fossildude19 said: The only issue with that ID being that on sculpins, the Spikes are oriented towards the posterior of the fish. In this item, the spikes are perpendicular to the bone. On 6/16/2018 at 10:05 AM, abyssunder said: That was also what I thought, a lionfish. Thanks for those photos! Something like this seems a very likely answer. It's definitely unlike any piece I've found while beachcombing before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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