Zapsalis Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Hello Fossil Forum! I recently purchased a metasequoia cone that is from the Huff, North Dakota area and the place I purchased it from has a tag claiming that it is 85 million years old. I believed it at first, but after some research I am unsure of its age. I have a Mesozoic collection going, so I’d like to know if it is late Cretaceous in age. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I find them in the Hell Creek Fm, 66myo. Huff area is Hell Creek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 That looks very similar to ones I've seen from the Hell Creek Formation which does outcrop in North Dakota, but only 66 to 66.8 mya or so. Not heard of older ones. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Not heard of older ones. Here’s some from the lower Cretaceous Arundel Clay of Maryland (upper left corner). the OPs is not likely from MD, of course. 2 “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I am not sure the tree in the Hell Creek is described, probably best called Metasequoia sp., someone might have an update. By the way these are not the actual cones from the tree but casts of what remains after the cone disintegrates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapsalis Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Troodon said: I am not sure the tree in the Hell Creek is described, probably best called Metasequoia sp., someone might have an update. By the way these are not the actual cones from the tree but casts of what remains after the cone disintegrates. I was going to say Metasequoia dakotensis, but I think that is too young (I’m most likely wrong). Also, I’m aware that this is just a cast of the original cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Zapsalis said: I was going to say Metasequoia Dakotensis, but I think that is too young (I’m most likely wrong). Also, I’m aware that this is just a cast of the original cone. Well that is the name I use for my cones but I cannot find any literature that supports that taxon why I used sp.. Fossilworks does not show it as a taxon. The museum in the School of Mines in SD labels it something else. Sequoia dakotensis is valid from the Lance per Brown, Yale Peabody see photo so have to assume it similar for the HC. So not being a plant person dont have an answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapsalis Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Troodon said: Well that is the name I use for my cones but I cannot find any literature that supports that taxon why I used sp.. Fossilworks does not show it as a taxon. The museum in the School of Mines in SD labels it something else. Sequoia dakotensis is valid from the Lance per Brown, Yale Peabody see photo so have to assume it similar for the HC. So not being a plant person dont have an answer. Is there anybody here I could contact who would know these types of fossils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zapsalis said: Is there anybody here I could contact who would know these types of fossils? That are knowledgeable on the HC fauna no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapsalis Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Troodon said: That are knowledgeable on the HC fauna no. Dang! Maybe I should talk with professors at my local geology museum some time. Maybe they would know. My fossil cone is Cretaceous in age, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just from what I am seeing online, it looks like the 3 dimensional cones are from the Cretaceous, while the flattened ones are from the Eocene. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 4:58 AM, Zapsalis said: Is there anybody here I could contact who would know these types of fossils? You could ask Pirahna. @piranha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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