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Earlier in the week I made a trip to Ramanessin Brook in Holmdel, NJ. I came back with a bunch of teeth and fragments, including these tiny things that I have clue what to think of. Any help is greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need a different photo. 

 

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# 1  Ghost shrimp claw section:

 

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#2 Unsure: Possibly base of an enchodus tooth?  Better pictures needed.

 

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#3 - & #4 -  Phragmacones of belemnites. 

 

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#5 - Fish vert? 

 

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#6  ??? Probably a concretion. Picture is a bit blurry to tell. 

 

 

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#7 -  ??? Modern nut shell? 

 

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Nut shell is possibly Hackberry if these trees are in your area. Size is right for that.

 

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1. Ghost Shrimp claw section

2.  Enchodus Tooth

3 and 4 == "Fragmacone" which is part of a belemnite 

5. Small Fish Vertebrae 

6 and 7 == Concretions

 

I think this is similar to what FossilDude said.

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1. Ghost shrimp claw

2. Enchodus palatine fang base

3&4. Belemnite phragmacones

5. Crustacean walking leg part

6. Shark vertebra

7. Modern nut shell

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Thank you all for the quick responses. I am excited to hear about the ghost shrimp fragment, it is the first in my collection.

 

I have tried to add a couple of photos to help illuminate the others. My apologies for the bad first photos. I do not think that 3 and 4 are belemnites. While you can find belemnites in Big Brook, I have never heard of anyone finding belemites in Ramanessin Brook. In addition, the two pieces have a funny ridge that runs up some of the sides. I have added a red line to help show it.

 

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As for #2, here are some additional photos.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Fossils? said:

6 and 7 definitely look like concretions

 

They definitely don't have a concretion shape/texture.

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3 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

Thank you all for the quick responses. I am excited to hear about the ghost shrimp fragment, it is the first in my collection.

 

I have tried to add a couple of photos to help illuminate the others. My apologies for the bad first photos. I do not think that 3 and 4 are belemites. While you can find belemites in Big Brook, I have never heard of anyone finding belemites in Ramanessin Brook. In addition, the two pieces have a funny ridge that runs up some of the sides. I have added a red line to help show it.

 

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These aren't Belemnites, but are rather belemnite phragmacones. They are basically dirt that has hardened up inside the belemnite's living chamber. The ridge is a good way to ID them. They do occur at Ramanessin.

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4 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

As for #2, here are some additional photos.

 

 

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That's an Enchodus sp. palatine tooth. It is either E. petrosus or E. ferox; you can't determine that as the specimen is too abraded.

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10 minutes ago, The Jersey Devil said:

 

These aren't Belemnites, but are rather belemnite phragmacones. They are basically dirt that has hardened up inside the belemnite's living chamber. The ridge is a good way to ID them. They do occur at Ramanessin.

 

Thank you so much. Because I have never come across the actual chamber before, I would never to have thought in that direction.

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I think #6 is a vertebra. I don't know whether to classify it as a shark or fish vertebra though. It does not have any markings on the side. Here is a photo of the one side and a photo of the other.

 

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1 minute ago, historianmichael said:

I think #6 is a vertebra. I don't know whether to classify it as a shark or fish vertebra though. It does not have any markings on the side. Here is a photo of the one side and a photo of the other. IMG_4932.jpg.c4b8da1c6a491efa454e22f7d690e532.jpgIMG_4933.thumb.jpg.08a16d12575836c0878fd8118eda0683.jpg

 

Fish verts are usually more elongated and have many relatively deep foramens on the lateral surfaces of the centrum. This is a shark vert.

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Thank you for the help. For the last piece, I notice that there is a little divot that runs a portion of the fragment. I have used arrows to highlight it.

 

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1 hour ago, historianmichael said:

Thank you for the help. For the last piece, I notice that there is a little divot that runs a portion of the fragment. I have used arrows to highlight it.

 

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It's a crustacean walking leg part.

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Here are some other oddities.

 

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#9

 

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#10- which has an interesting pattern on it that can be viewed in the second photo

 

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#11- which has a similarly interesting pattern on it that can be viewed in the second photo

 

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6 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

Here are some other oddities.

 

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This is a pretty scarce find. It's a section of ratfish fin spine.

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6 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

#9

 

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Crustacean pincer; likely ghost shrimp, Mesostylus mortoni.

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8 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

#10- which has an interesting pattern on it that can be viewed in the second photo

 

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6 minutes ago, historianmichael said:

#11- which has a similarly interesting pattern on it that can be viewed in the second photo

 

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These are both crustacean walking leg parts.

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Thank you @The Jersey Devil for all your help.

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One last one. I initially thought this was a cownose ray scute.

 

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