Fish, Amphibian, Rodent? Caloosahatchee Formation Plio/Pleistocene of South West Florida

[alej9582]

Hi Guys,

 

Can you help me identify this tiny bone? It is so delicate I thought amphibian but this is not my strong.

 

Kind regards,

Alex

[Fossildude19]

We'll likely need more views of different angles.   

Try taking pictures in daylight, outside.

 

Take your pictures looking straight down on the item. 

Put a ruler or tape measure in for scale. 

Take pictures of all 6 sides. 

Top, bottom, left side, right side, front, and back. 

 

 

[alej9582]

@Fossildude19 Will take out my DSLR and take those pics, my cellphone I guess is not the most appropriate HD devise. Will get back to you with more. Thanks! 

[Fossildude19]

I find that cell phone cameras tend to work better outside. 

The trick is to focus on the fossil, and not the background.  Cropping out as much of the background as possible helps. 

Lighting is key.  

Good luck.   

[alej9582]

Thanks @Fossildude19 will get back this afternoon.

[Plax]

am trying to make a vertebral process out of it or perhaps one of the "struts" on a small turtle shell.

[alej9582]

@Fossildude19 Here you go... might take a few replies to upload all of them.

[alej9582]

2 hours ago, Plax said:

  am trying to make a vertebral process out of it or perhaps one of the "struts" on a small turtle shell.

@Plax Found some resemblance on Ranidae scapulas. Many meocene species on my collection area. Thoughts? Posted more pics above.

[Auspex]

My first impression was scapula, but I haven't yet hit on a great match.

[Auspex]

Getting warm? LINK

[alej9582]

3 minutes ago, Auspex said:

My first impression was scapula, but I haven't yet hit on a great match.

@Auspex yup im going through everything I can find online on Plio/Pleistocene even Meocene on this location to find a match. 

[old bones]

I am seeing this as a large (as in bullfrog) scapula. I have several much smaller ones from the Merritt Island matrix.

[alej9582]

1 hour ago, old bones said:

I am seeing this as a large (as in bullfrog) scapula. I have several much smaller ones from the Merritt Island matrix.

@old bones Do you have any photos? Or information on this?

[alej9582]

Right on target @old bones

@Auspex @Fossildude19

 

Look at attached PDF Late Pliocene Either Bullfrog (last page) or Scaphiopus holbrooki. Both scapulas match perfectly!

 

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4d4c/16b4d54c71e3efa7aa4c1647d7f2ef6094c3.pdf

[old bones]

@alej9582Glad I could help. Bedtime came before I had a chance to collect a couple of my photos to show you. When I get home from work I will upload a couple of the tiny ones that I have collected.

 

Julianna

[alej9582]

Thanks @old bones! Glad to have one specimen ID. Will post more soon could use all of you guys help.

[old bones]

Here are two of my tiny ones from @Sacha's Merritt Island Florida matrix. I've been 3 years working on sorting, photographing and cataloging the finds from this Pleistocene matrix. It is taking quite some time to learn enough from books and PDFs to recognize some of the many bones from multiple species. I have a long way still to go! lol

 

[alej9582]

@old bones looks like you are doing an awsome job. I try to find PDF on different fossils but can find much without paying $30 plus. Maybe im looking in the wrong place.