skiman1016 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I was a little unsure of this fossil I found at Penn Dixie in western New York. It’s from the Devonian shale. I’d appreciate any help or information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What are we looking at? Can you highlight what you are interested in? Most everything is too small to tell anything for sure. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiman1016 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Sorry about that, the other photos didn’t upload properly. The fossil is hard to photograph as it’s on the side of the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiman1016 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Here’s a close up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 OK, thanks for the better picture. My first thought was crinoid, but, ... I'm not seeing the typical columnals. It could be a branching tabulate coral, something like Thamnoptychia limbata ? Cool find. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Strange indeed. Looking to me like some wierdly long rugose coral. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Some form of elongated coral. Cool find though! Devonian corals are especially interesting. On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I'm not seeing any coral or bryozoan features, however. Maybe a burrow cast? @DevonianDigger @Jeffrey P @FossilDAWG @Shamalama @TqB Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 A burrow of some kind, maybe, or a long solitary coral as you said. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 +1 for burrow. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 @Fossildude19 I think you're right with tabulate, Tim, but a branchlike one like Cladochonus. Tabulae are absent or sparse in that genus. I've seen similar ones in the Carboniferous (and the genus is Devonian - Permian). Here's one, I think it's the same but viewed from top, not the side. 1 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 We do not have much to go on here, effectively just a single photo as the fossil is on the side of the rock and out of focus in the first photo. Can you take a couple of photos from different angles so we can have an idea of the three-dimensional structure of the fossil? In particular, what is actual fossil and what is an impression? I sort of get a sense of a circular tube shaped object (indicated by the circular crystal filled part on the left), with an impression of the tube in the middle (the part in the red circle), and something, maybe impression and maybe actual fossil, on the right. From the one image though I can't really tell if the basic structure is a straight tube, or if it is curved, irregular, of what. I also do not see any structures that suggest coral to me. If it is a coral there should be some indication of septa or tabulae. Don Here is my interpretation/guess: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, FossilDAWG said: I also do not see any structures that suggest coral to me. If it is a coral there should be some indication of septa or tabulae. Don Not in Cladochonus. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiman1016 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Here are a couple other photos, the fossil is at a weird location in the matrix which makes it difficult to get good photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fossilized6s Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Looks like possibly a worn branching crinoid stem. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Still with Cladochonus or similar. Here's another of mine from the Mississippian, so a different species, showing just two corallites of a colony. (mm scale) (And a bit of crinoid above it on the left.) And yours, with a similarly positioned narrow corallite base where one has snapped off. The narrow stem and bulge of the corallite is typical of the genus. 6 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiman1016 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Thanks for all of the suggestions and information from everyone. It does look like it could be something similar to Cladochonus, i can easily see all of the distinguishing characteristics mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm in the crinoid camp. It might be crinoid holdfast (anchoring system), that might be the reason why there are no columnals visible, in my opinion. 5 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 12 hours ago, abyssunder said: I'm in the crinoid camp. It might be crinoid holdfast (anchoring system), that might be the reason why there are no columnals visible, in my opinion. I admit that looks reasonable too. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 15 hours ago, abyssunder said: I'm in the crinoid camp. It might be crinoid holdfast (anchoring system), that might be the reason why there are no columnals visible, in my opinion. This I think is a good ID. Well done! Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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