Raggedy Man Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Hello, I found this at the beginning of 2018 and haven't given it much thought until I saw the post from 2016 about a strange specimen that looked like Native Americans carved. The topic has been linked below. Below is the specimen I found and was curious if its the same process and is also counter septarian? I also thought they might be beekite rings. Any thoughts and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Paul 1 ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Beekite, perhaps? Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I agree with beekite, but would like to know the size. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Looks beekite. @Raggedy Man. The 'can't figger this one out' post is one of my favorites. 1 "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, ynot said: I agree with beekite, but would like to know the size. Smallest is 2 mm and the largest is 10 mm. ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Innocentx said: Looks beekite. @Raggedy Man. The 'can't figger this one out' post is one of my favorites. Mine too! I was absolutely shocked it turned out to be geological. ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 At first glance it looks like an animal with an eye. Pretty cool. Can I see a pic of the entire rock and a close-up of a circle? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatinformationist Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Mystery and adventure afoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 @Bronzviking Cropped and contrasted ... 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepTimeIsotopes Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 How did these structures form? Each dot is 50,000,000 years: Hadean............Archean..............................Proterozoic.......................................Phanerozoic........... Paleo......Meso....Ceno.. Ꞓ.OSD.C.P.Tr.J.K..Pg.NgQ< You are here Doesn't time just fly by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: @Bronzviking Cropped and contrasted ... Thanks for the cropped photo. Is the blueish gray chalcedony? It looks very waxy. I've never seen or heard of beekite. Very unusual but interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, UtahFossilHunter said: How did these structures form? Silicification as a method of fossilisation The method of fossilisation which is the most variable is replacement. This can result in fossils which show fine detail or, as in the fossil in Figure 1, it can result in a mere outline of the specimen being preserved. The method which results in this is silicification, where silica is introduced into specimens as a replacement of the shell mineral calcite, particularly a form known as beekitisation. Beekite is a form of chalcedony, a microcrystalline form of quartz, named after Henry Beeke, Dean of Bristol (1751-137). It is usually recognisable as orbicular structures, concentrically layered spheroids. Apart from the presence of orbicular structures of beekite there are a number of ways to identify if a fossil is silicified: Natural weathering will dissolve the limestone matrix in which the fossil is preserved leaving the fossil proud (see Figure 3), steel will not scratch it and if acid is applied it does not fizz as limestone does. From this site.... https://www.museum.ie/The-Collections/Documentation-Discoveries/February-2016/The-Formation-of-Fossils 5 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, ynot said: Silicification as a method of fossilisation The method of fossilisation which is the most variable is replacement. This can result in fossils which show fine detail or, as in the fossil in Figure 1, it can result in a mere outline of the specimen being preserved. The method which results in this is silicification, where silica is introduced into specimens as a replacement of the shell mineral calcite, particularly a form known as beekitisation. Beekite is a form of chalcedony, a microcrystalline form of quartz, named after Henry Beeke, Dean of Bristol (1751-137). It is usually recognisable as orbicular structures, concentrically layered spheroids. Apart from the presence of orbicular structures of beekite there are a number of ways to identify if a fossil is silicified: Natural weathering will dissolve the limestone matrix in which the fossil is preserved leaving the fossil proud (see Figure 3), steel will not scratch it and if acid is applied it does not fizz as limestone does. From this site.... https://www.museum.ie/The-Collections/Documentation-Discoveries/February-2016/The-Formation-of-Fossils So is this specimen pictured considered a fossil? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Beekite Miriam Webster defines beekite as : a pseudomorph of chalcedony after coral or shell. Pretty much the same thing Tony said, ... only he said it better. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Concerning the counter septarian post 2 hours ago, Raggedy Man said: Mine too! I was absolutely shocked it turned out to be geological. I thought it was surely carved by humans, but earth and the elements are the supreme artist. We just can't compete. Here is photo of some beekite I have. It can get loopy. 1 "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks everyone! ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 20 hours ago, Raggedy Man said: Mine too! I was absolutely shocked it turned out to be geological. And mine. Only reread it again last week! John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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