shwa Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 What ya think. Interesting one. I found this on a high exposed ridge over a small cliff. I frequently come across specimens in this area. But this one ??????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Looks like a layered mineral concretion to me, meaning geologic rather than biologic. 3 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Sorry, but I think this is weathering, hydration and oxidation primarily, of a rock. As S.A.T. says, likely a concretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 plus 1 for concretion "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peat Burns Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I agree with the others. Not a fossil but geologic in origin. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I am in the concretion group. I remember finding a rock that I sure thought had a skin pattern on it. It turned out to be mineral veining. If it were reptile skin we’d expect to see certain patterns. This is from a google search for reptile skin. If it were bone I’d expect to see bone texture and porosity in the underlying rock, which I don’t see. Also, if it were bone with marrow filling or other filling it would look similar to this in shape. There is a certain thickness of bone wall to marrow ratio based on the animal and the location of the bone. The thick wall of your specimen doesn’t look like bone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Rhizolith / Rhizoconcretion in maybe ancient Eolianite would be my best guess for the specimen in question, but I could be wrong. Questions: 1 - What is the geological age of the sediments? 2 - Were reported rhizoliths from that area? 3 - Can you retake the picture below in a more focused higher resolution image? 2 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It is absolutely not a limb with muscle and skin at any rate. As the others are pointing out, it's a rock. If you can answer Abyssunder's questions, perhaps he can at least tell you what kind. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwa Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks for the reply's all. I know these pictures aren't the highest res. But this aint no rock. I have no doubt it has mineralized but still. This thin layer (skin) is consistent throughout the whole piece with equal uniformity. It looks like a fore shank off of some mammal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Sorry but you are mistaken. It's not skin. It's not a fossil. We humans tend to see patterns everywhere even where there are none to be found. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, shwa said: This thin layer (skin) is consistent throughout the whole piece with equal uniformity. Does the whole thing get wet in the rain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Here we go again. Another one who thinks a rock is a fossil because of its shape and structure. Hopefully we can convince him otherwise. @shwa I agree that this rock has a shape similar to a foreshank, although that is a butcher's term rather than an anatomical one. Fossilized preserved muscle and skin are absolute rarities and do not coincide with what you have there. Bones preserve much better, but there is no sign of one here. A lot of rocks have a uniform "skin", which is actually a compound mineral crust around the inner sediment. These forms almost always have a round or oblong shape. This is what you have here. Purely stating that this ain't no rock is not very convincing. You would need to provide scientific evidence like this. Can you please convince us of your expertise by at least telling us what the geological age of the sediments in the area is and also if rhizoliths were reported from that area, as Abyssunder has asked? 5 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The picture resolution is good enough to tell it is a rock. If you still do not believe us, perhaps taking it to a local museum or university, and having a qualified paleontologist look at it would be the better route to take. Regards, 5 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facehugger Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 +1 rock. Sometimes our brain interprets patterns that aren't there. Like seeing images in the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I can see why it caught your attention! The differentially patterned layers make an interesting geological specimen, but it is not of organic origin. 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwa Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Maybe its time for a trip down the expanded possibility highway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, shwa said: Maybe its time for a trip down the expanded possibility highway. Conspiracy theorist. That YouTuber is the same person who claims that, without scientific evidence, 50 foot tall ancient human DNA was found on Mars and that the truth is being covered up. 6 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, shwa said: Maybe its time for a trip down the expanded possibility highway. As a science-based forum, TFF doesn't indulge in the fantastical conjecture of the improbable...especially when there are explanations based on known processes and examples. It's reason that helps us discern what is accurate among the infinite possibilities we might believe. 5 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Thanks Kane you obliterated one of my dreams there, No 50 ft woman then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 <LINK> This is the foundation for all that we know to be true. 5 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said: Thanks Kane you obliterated one of my dreams there, No 50 ft woman then No, Kane said "ancient human". The 50ft woman is modern so your dream can still live. 1 Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Kane said: Conspiracy theorist. You mean Devil's Tower isn't really a petrified tree ? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I dont think we have any fossilized tissue as the others have said but I am curious about the answers to the questions abyssunder has asked and the additional view he requested. I am also curious about two other features I noticed and wondering if a clear view of these might help explain more specifically what you might have. The end view shows an angular/spongy looking texture of some sort...is that soil/moss or mineral or something else? Internally, aside from outside rind that abyssunder has asked about, the layering in the upper left shows a texture difference almost like pores or holes where mineral grains may have fallen out...Is that the case? Are sharp closeups of these areas also possible? thanks. Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwa Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hmmmm what about this ??? https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/bones/iron-key-to-preserving-dinosaur-soft-tissue/ Colorado Springs has it all as far as sediment age. This was found along an outcrop of the Cretaceous Larimie Formation. The ends show iron oxide crystals with a lil quartz perhaps. Sunny photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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