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Chamois or Red Deer teeth?

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Darko

Hi everyone.

Today i went to my first fossil hunt this year and it was quite succesfull! I went to one Big Cave in Village of Zabrega, Paraćin.That Cave itself is enormous!

I Will add some photos of it.

But i'm here because of something else..I found couple of lower and upper jaws and also these 2 teeth..Not sure what is it..I'm thinking Deer...Chamois in my region has gone few thousand years ago...I found all of them in that Cave.If someone can identify this as well as jaws it Will be quite nice.

Warm regards,

Darko

 

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Archie

Sorry cant help with ID but that's an extremely cool looking cave and a beautiful landscape its set in!

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Darko
1 minute ago, Archie said:

Sorry cant help with ID but that's an extremely cool looking cave and a beautiful landscape its set in!

Thanks!  Yeah,that's True! I love It!

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The Amateur Paleontologist
33 minutes ago, Archie said:

Sorry cant help with ID but that's an extremely cool looking cave and a beautiful landscape its set in!

Ditto - I'm no good at ID'ing mammal fossils; but seriously, that mountain landscape is wonderful!

-Christian

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Tidgy's Dad

Agreed! 

Incredible landscape, nice photos but can't help with the id. :)

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Darko
24 minutes ago, The Amateur Paleontologist said:

Ditto - I'm no good at ID'ing mammal fossils; but seriously, that mountain landscape is wonderful!

-Christian

Thanks! 

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Darko
20 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Agreed! 

Incredible landscape, nice photos but can't help with the id. :)

No problem, Thanks!

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abyssunder

Which Chamois are you referring to?

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Darko
39 minutes ago, abyssunder said:

Which Chamois are you referring to?

Rupicarpa balcanica or carpatica

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abyssunder

Rupicapra rupicapra balcanica - the balkan chamois is extant.

The red deer of your region is probably Cervus elaphus hippelaphus - the Central European red deer.

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Darko
1 minute ago, abyssunder said:

Rupicapra rupicapra balcanica - the balkan chamois is extant.

The red deer of your region is probably Cervus elaphus hippelaphus - the Central European red deer.

It is but not in my region,maybe it was several thousand years ago...

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abyssunder

" R. r. balcanica (Balkan chamois): Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, northern Greece (the Pindus Mountains),[5] Republic of Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Slovenia (isolated populations)[4] "- according to Wikipedia :headscratch:

 

The other one, also extant, is from Romania.
" R. r. carpatica (Carpathian chamois): Romania" - Wikipedia

 

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Darko
13 hours ago, abyssunder said:

" R. r. balcanica (Balkan chamois): Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, northern Greece (the Pindus Mountains),[5] Republic of Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Slovenia (isolated populations)[4] "- according to Wikipedia :headscratch:

When i say my Region,i mean particularly the place(City) where i am from.We dont have them here.

Also, would like to know from which animal are those teeth...If u can help :)

@Harry Pristis any help??

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Harry Pristis

 

Sorry, all I know is that the (modern) chamois is a tiny artiodactyl, while a red deer is a very large artiodactyl.

 

 

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abyssunder

Have you ruled out the sheep / goat possibility for some of them?

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Darko
19 hours ago, abyssunder said:

Have you ruled out the sheep / goat possibility for some of them?

It looks more like a Goat

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Harry Pristis

The mandible appears to me to have deciduous teeth, particularly the p3.  The maxillae seem to be from adults.  I don't see goat.

 

 

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abyssunder

Is the below a sheep lower jaw?

 

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Darko
On 1.2.2019. at 7:15 PM, Harry Pristis said:

The mandible appears to me to have deciduous teeth, particularly the p3.  The maxillae seem to be from adults.  I don't see goat.

 

 

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So,what that could be then?

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Darko
On 1.2.2019. at 9:41 PM, abyssunder said:

Is the below a sheep lower jaw?

 

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If you mean about my find then not...Most likely Roe deer.Quite small as u see

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abyssunder
7 hours ago, Darko said:

If you mean about my find then not...Most likely Roe deer.Quite small as u see

I'm referring to the one in the alamy stock photo, labeled as sheep lower jaw.
What you are referring to saying " Most likely Roe deer.Quite small as u see " ?

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Darko
On 8.2.2019. at 2:38 PM, abyssunder said:

I'm referring to the one in the alamy stock photo, labeled as sheep lower jaw.
What you are referring to saying " Most likely Roe deer.Quite small as u see " ?

I posted one smaller part of lower jaw, it's a rok deer jaw

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