Zenmaster6 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I cannot take anymore photos as this was not my photo but if anyone could identify these. They are around 15 - 20 million years old. Eocene period found in western washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 These look like the internal molds of the shell and will be hard to make an id. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, ynot said: These look like the internal molds of the shell and will be hard to make an id. what about the gastropod with the white. Is that not the shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Zenmaster6 said: what about the gastropod with the white. Is that not the shell? It could be, and someone very familiar with the area may be able to identify it to some taxonomic level. Without a good close look at any ornament it may be limited though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I think the gastropod is an internal mold but with a thin layer of the inner layer of shell material still stuck to it, so no external shell morphology preserved. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Zenmaster6 said: what about the gastropod with the white. Is that not the shell? What Tidgy's dad said. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, ynot said: What Tidgy's dad said. I was watching, and I didn't see him say anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rockwood said: I was watching, and I didn't see him say anything. That is a pretty strange telescope You have - able to see around earth's curvature all the way to morocco and into Tidgy's house! 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, ynot said: That is a pretty strange telescope You have - able to see around earth's curvature all the way to morocco and into Tidgy's house! It's just to the left on my screen. I am starting to worry that he sits exceptionally still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Rockwood said: It's just to the left on my screen. I am starting to worry that he sits exceptionally still. So do You! 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 I was hoping for an identification but instead I've been laughing all morning because of the comments I woke up to lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 But I guess my question is, if I took an elephant for example and skinned it across its whole body and wrapped the skin over a rock shaped like an elephant. Could you still be able to obviously identify that it is indeed an elephant. I meant, that's kinda how people taxidermize fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, ynot said: That is a pretty strange telescope You have - able to see around earth's curvature all the way to morocco and into Tidgy's house! It's not Tidgy's house, it's my house. Actually, I think Tidgy and wifey both think it's theirs. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rockwood said: It's just to the left on my screen. I am starting to worry that he sits exceptionally still. I do! I like to pretend to be a rock. Practice all the time. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: I do! I like to pretend to be a rock. Practice all the time. Method actors ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Zenmaster6 said: But I guess my question is, if I took an elephant for example and skinned it across its whole body and wrapped the skin over a rock shaped like an elephant. Could you still be able to obviously identify that it is indeed an elephant. I meant, that's kinda how people taxidermize fish. If you had the peristracum from this gastropod to stretch over a rock an expert could probably identify it as easily as an elephant. And if they were cast from blue plastic I could identify them as a snail and an elephant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Zenmaster6 said: was hoping for an identification Because all of the external features are gone there is nothing to use for making an ID. Using the elephant analogy- there is no skin only an unrecognizable pile of hamburger left 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenmaster6 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 hours ago, ynot said: Because all of the external features are gone there is nothing to use for making an ID. Using the elephant analogy- there is no skin only an unrecognizable pile of hamburger left I guess gastropods all look very similar while nothing really looks like an elephant. Unless you are an expert it would be pretty difficult to identify the species just by the skin. Anyways thanks for helping. I'll know how to post better and hopefully work towards a better sample for identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 With most shells it is the outside features that make an ID, if they are gone it gets much harder to get to a species name. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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