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Hello!

 

I was cleaning out the trunk of my car and found some material from a hunt at North Bergen NJ a few months back. I cracked a few open and found this one.

 

My big question is, on the right side, is that a fish skull or just a coprolite or something? 

 

@Jeffrey P @Fossildude19

 

Thanks!

-Frank H

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Looks like a skull to me, Frank! :)  :dinothumb:

Nice piece!

 

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I've found that skulls will very frequently have that yellow dot on them - maybe the remains of an otolith? 

 

Cool find. :D 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Looks like a skull to me, Frank! :)  :dinothumb:

Nice piece!

 

Man, that is cool! Obviously, I really took my time breaking everything open that I brought home from that trip but I'm pretty excited about this one!

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1 minute ago, frankh8147 said:

Man, that is cool! Obviously, I really took my time breaking everything open that I brought home from that trip but I'm pretty excited about this one!

You should be!

Not many people can claim to have found Triassic coelacanths by themselves! :) 

Even if it is a partial - very cool in my book. 

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4 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

You should be!

Not many people can claim to have found Triassic coelacanths by themselves! :) 

Even if it is a partial - very cool in my book. 

 

Haha, I did not find that by myself! Thanks for all the help and advice :) 

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Frank, great find. Honestly, I am not sure I would have even seen this if the piece was in my possession. great eyes also.

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Awesome! I'll have to try to get down there some day. I'm glad you posted it. Good find! It sure helps to have Tim ID it too! Thanks, Tim. I was looking through some old fishy shale we found (in 2013!) yesterday, and found a few small slabs thick enough to split. I had high hopes but all I found were a few scales.  Great job, Frank!

 

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13 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Not many people can claim to have found Triassic coelacanths by themselves!

It's a pretty short list...

 

What an exciting find for you. Frank! Congratulations!

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 Purty cool.  Ive always wanted one of these.  But I have one question,  @Fossildude19, if that yellow spot is a part of an ear bone, why would it turn yellow?  Just curious. 

 

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16 minutes ago, RJB said:

 Purty cool.  Ive always wanted one of these.  But I have one question,  @Fossildude19, if that yellow spot is a part of an ear bone, why would it turn yellow?  Just curious. 

 

RB

Ear wax? :D

 

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50 minutes ago, RJB said:

 Purty cool.  Ive always wanted one of these.  But I have one question,  @Fossildude19, if that yellow spot is a part of an ear bone, why would it turn yellow?  Just curious. 

 

RB

 

I'm guessing due to mineral make up, Ron. 

I think it is different material from the bone before fossilization, so that it changes to the yellow, powdery substance while the bones become more mineralized. 

Just a guess, honestly.  :shrug:

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4 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

 

I'm guessing due to mineral make up, Ron. 

I think it is different material from the bone before fossilization, so that it changes to the yellow, powdery substance while the bones become more mineralized. 

Just a guess, honestly.  :shrug:

Otoliths consist of calcium carbonate ( CaCO3)  - bones of Hydroxylapatite ( Ca10(PO4)6(OH)2 )

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7 hours ago, FossilDAWG said:

Ear wax? 

one funny dude.  :)

 

7 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

I'm guessing due to mineral make up, Ron. 

I think it is different material from the bone before fossilization, so that it changes to the yellow, powdery substance while the bones become more mineralized. 

Just a guess, honestly.

Thanks man.

 

2 hours ago, oilshale said:

Otoliths consist of calcium carbonate ( CaCO3)  - bones of Hydroxylapatite ( Ca10(PO4)6(OH)2 )

Its almost like you know what your talking about.  :)    One smart fella is all I can say.  Thanks man. 

 

RB

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Thanks everyone!

3 hours ago, oilshale said:

Otoliths consist of calcium carbonate ( CaCO3)  - bones of Hydroxylapatite ( Ca10(PO4)6(OH)2 )

 

Interesting stuff! ..I'm not going to be quizzed on this though, right? :) 

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1 hour ago, RJB said:

one funny dude.  :)

 

Thanks man.

 

Its almost like you know what your talking about.  :)    One smart fella is all I can say.  Thanks man. 

 

RB

 

;) Nah, it's my job. I am a chemist by profession. 

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2 hours ago, oilshale said:

 

;) Nah, it's my job. I am a chemist by profession. 

I have to agree with Ron, Thomas. 
You are one smart fella. :) 

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