Scutes?

[LBI]

Are these scutes?  Found in Bandera County TX. Glen Rose formation. 

[Fossildude19]

They don't appear to be fossils to me.  

[LBI]

There should’ve been 3 more pics. I’ll resend them. 

[LBI]

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[digit]

Nope. Not seeing any texture to indicate bone. Look completely geological to me.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

[LBI]

The one on the bottom is the smaller one from previous pictures. I scraped the end just a bit. The other has not been scraped. 

[digit]

Nope. Still not seeing any texture that would indicate bone. The rocks are highly irregular and give no indication that they are what you are hoping. Do an internet image search for the word "dinosaur" combined with terms like "dermal ossicle" or "dermal scute" and you will see a number of photographs of what these bony plates actually look like. They have bone texture and are much more regular regular shapes and textures. Your objects seem to be a sedimentary mixture of hardened clays and fine sands.

 

I see you are digging in the Glen Rose Formation. This formation is best known for marine fossils and some plant material. Some dinosaur trackways have been found in the area but it seems that vertebrate fossils are very rare with just a few isolated finds of dinosaur bones. None of those dinosaurs seem to be the type to be covered with bony plates. I doubt that any known fossil material from this formation has been dinosaur ossicles (or "scutes") and so it would be infinitely more likely that you have found geological (not biological) rocks instead.

 

Extraordinary claims of atypical fossil material being discovered from a formation requires extraordinary proof. If your items had the texture of fossilized bones and if they resembled any known type of dinosaur ossicle, then they would be of interest to paleontologists studying this formation. Your rocks exhibit no indications that they are what you hope them to be. Belief does not change the facts. Sorry.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

[LBI]

That makes sense. Thank you for that information. I’m not disagreeing, I just feel that this is not geologic. I scraped a little more, I don’t want to ruin it with the tools that I have, and it seems to be more in tune with a jaw segment. 

[Fossildude19]

Unfortunately, this isn't a bone of any kind.  

There is no jaw or "scute" morphology. 

There is no bone texture to these items. 

 

If you are convinced these aren't geologic in origin, then, you are, by definition, disagreeing.   

I understand you are not being rude about it, (thank you.) but you are still in disagreement. 

Please take your items to the nearest natural history museum or college paleontology department.

I am positive you will be told the same as we have answered here. 

 

Topic locked, as there is nothing more to be learned from this.