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Is This A Squalodon Tooth? I Think It Is.


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I found this yesterday at the Martin Marietta quarry in Belgrade(Maysville) NC. The quarry is late Oligocene Belgrade formation. I have not heard of Squalodon teeth from here but here it is. Am I correct? Any thoughts you guys have would be greatly appreciated.

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Looking good, that or Delphinid. :wub:

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Looks like a canine, Zygorhiza kochi, but that would be Eocene whale. Looks so much like it in my book Don.

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It's not Squalodon, Zygorhiza, or a delphinid - Squalodon is strictly Miocene, Zygorhiza is strictly Eocene, and delphinids 1) do not have double rooted teeth and 2) are strictly post-late Miocene in their occurrences. This is some sort of an archaic cetacean, certainly - but there are numerous odontocetes from the Oligocene that have double rooted teeth, whether they be squalodontids, simocetids, dalpiazinids, squalodelphids, agorophiids, xenorophids, or a number of other taxa. This tooth can be identified as Odontoceti indet.

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It's not Squalodon, Zygorhiza, or a delphinid - Squalodon is strictly Miocene, Zygorhiza is strictly Eocene, and delphinids 1) do not have double rooted teeth and 2) are strictly post-late Miocene in their occurrences. This is some sort of an archaic cetacean, certainly - but there are numerous odontocetes from the Oligocene that have double rooted teeth, whether they be squalodontids, simocetids, dalpiazinids, squalodelphids, agorophiids, xenorophids, or a number of other taxa. This tooth can be identified as Odontoceti indet.

Bobby, I am wondering even if the whole root was present if this tooth could be ID'd down to species.

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Unfortunately, no. The problem is that very few of the fossil odontocetes from the Oligocene of South Carolina have been described, and while it certainly belongs to one of those species - it is probably not identifiable in the first place. Perhaps if it was a posterior premolar or molar; this appears to be a 1st or possibly second premolar, which are relatively similar across archaic cetaceans.

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Thanks Bobby, I always look forward to your comments on my post's. They are always full of excellent information.

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Thanks Taffie!

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