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  1. It was the day before I was supposed to leave for Kentucky, but the only time we could all get together. The weather prediction kept changing every day, finally settling on cloudy with showers later in the afternoon. Tim (Fossildude19) and I met at 6AM at our usual meeting place, a park n' ride off Interstate 84, and drove up to DSR, stopping once in Roscoe, N.Y. off Route 17 at the diner for coffee and Tim's breakfast sandwich. It was my second time going to DSR this year, but I've been there dozens of times since I first visited the site in the spring of 2013. In late 2014, I introduced Tim, my new fossil hunting buddy to the site and suggested it might be a good place for TFF meetups because of the blanket permission to collect there, the easy accessibility and collecting, and the wide biodiversity and abundance of late Hamilton Group specimens there. The following year we did have our first TFF meetup there and the rest is history: Deep Springs Road Quarry is the easternmost exposure of the Middle Devonian Moscow Formation Windom Shale, the same formation and member that is exposed at Penn Dixie and a number of other sites near Buffalo. However, the marine fauna exposed here is far different from those other sites to the west. Trilobites, especially Eldredgeops and rugose corals are more abundant at those other sites. This site, which was much closer to the Catskill Delta, was likely cloudier and this less hospitable to corals which are uncommon to rare at DSR, but more favorable for bivalves and gastropods. Trilobites are not as abundant as they are near Buffalo, but they are still common. While Eldredgeops trilobites can be found, Greenops trilobites are the most common species seen at DSR, and the second most common are Dipleura dekayi which are pretty rare in western New York. We arrived between 9 and 10. The temp was in the 60s, so good. Dave, (Shamalama), Mike (Biotalker), and Veenasaur and her husband were already there digging. I was Tim made me jealous right off the bat, finding the tiny comma-shaped bivalve, Phestia brevirostra, the only bivalve species I have yet to find at DSR in ten years of active searching. Tim did gift me a specimen a few years back, so I do have one in my collection. It was my first time meeting Veenasaur who came up from Massacusetts. I hadn't seen Dave in at least two years. I always appreciate Dave's focus on things most of us overlook and in the process finding real treasures of the prehistoric world. It was also great seeing Mike again. Last time was at Penn Dixie at the Dig with the Experts, roughly a year ago. Mike found wonderful examples of the rare tear-shaped scallop ancesetor, Mytilarca oviformis and Pseudoaviculopecten princeps. Despite being a bit hobbled having had a bicycle mishap the week before resulting in a broken rib, though I was making an excellent recovery by that point, I made a few decent finds: My favorite was this smallish phyllocarid, Echinocaris punctata, both valves. It was in a pile of rocks. I first found the imprint and a few minutes later, the other side, unfortunately broken, but recoverable.
  2. As I wrote in my previous Deep Springs Road Quarry thread, the very next day I was off to Kentucky. Like my other trips there, the purpose was primarily family/social. My father was turning 95. Between spending quality time with family, I was able to visit a couple of my favorite roadcuts exposing Paleozoic marine sediments and collect specimens I don't have access to in New York. The first site I visited was the very first site I was to acquaint myself with in Kentucky years ago. It is located near the town of Leitchfield, about a half hour from my family in Elizabethtown. Years ago, it was my very first exposure to rocks of the Mississippian Age and it has been a favorite ever since. I've visited this site every time I've been to Kentucky in the past seven years. The site, more specifically, is an Upper Mississippian marine site, the Leitchfield Limestone, Glen Dean Member. Since I've been there last year, they've done a bit of work on the road, installed curbs and a sidewalk, severely restricting the offroad parking situation. It also appears they are planting grass which will limit the collecting area. Fortunately, there was enough room to park my car and the collecting area was still open. The weather was pleasant and sunny as I wandered up and down and across the slopes of weathered shale and limestone exploring and searching for specimens. There were a number of rugose corals present, though most were badly weathered I ended up keeping this one- Zaphrentoides spinulosum:
  3. The past two weeks I've been able to go out collecting a couple of times- two different locations, both Lower Devonian. Where I live the bedrock is all metamorphic. Nice scenery, wooded hills, lakes and wetlands, but metamorphic rock, so I have to drive over an hour to get to the nearest sedimentary exposures that are fossil bearing. My favorite locality that's within an hour and a half is Glenerie, which is located between Kingston and Saugerties just west of the Hudson River. It represents the type locality for the Glenerie Limestone. New York's Lower Devonian is divided into two groups: the Helderberg and the Tristates. The Tristates is the younger of the two and that's where the Glenerie Limestone is placed. I first visited the Glenerie site when I was a teenager. When I resumed fossil collecting 12 years ago, it was one of the first sites I revisited and quickly became a favorite (I lived much closer to it then.) For a while, I was there almost every week and this site was the first one I built up a collection from. As I became acquainted with other fossil sites, I visited Glenerie less often, but in recent years, inspired in part by my fossil hunting comrades, I've been going more. The Glenerie site is very rich in brachiopods which probably make up over 95% of the marine fauna. The vast majority of those are single valve. which display amazing detail in ornamentation, muscle scars, etc. Gastropods, tentaculites, bryozoans, and trilobites make up most of the rest of the fauna. Corals have been found by some of my friends on very rare occasions. I have found a single small nautiloid there as well as a partial crinoid calyx. I saw another this time, but unfortunately, was unable to extract it. The fossils are usually preserved in silica which resists the weathering that dssolves the limestone. Some of the limestone is densely packed with fossil shells. However, the rock is so hard that extracting the fossils which are actually softer than the matrix, is impossible. There are areas of the outcrop, near the top and in crevices where shells weather out complete and can often be obtained intact surface collecting. It was a good day for finding gastropods. I was able to collect a half dozen, including this one, a Platystoma ventricosa- actually two shells side by side, two and a quarter inch across.
  4. In September 2014, this writer collected a number of specimens of Ordovician Age brachiopods from a site just south of Kingston, NY. Ordovician brachiopods and other shelly fauna are pretty rare in the Hudson Valley despite widespread exposures of Ordovician Age shales, quartzites and slates that occasionally produce graptolites. These tiny casts and imprints found in crumbly shale and siltstone of the proposed Ulster Park Formation, from the top of the Normanskill Group is one of the few exceptions and deserves more extensive exploration. Sowerbyella and Dalmanella Dalmanella and Paucicrura rogata
  5. Today I met up with some forum members for a group hunt in the Middle Devonian of Central New York. Members @Fossildude19 , his Son Aidan,@Jeffrey P, @Easwiecki, plus five of his friends, as well as @Bjohn170 and his girlfriend Amy. I think i can safely say we all had a very nice day. There were plenty of fossils, good people, and the weather was ok.ok. I was the first one to arrive, bright and early at 7am and i had a couple hoursbefore the others started pouring in. It was Bjohn170's first time doing this type of digging but he and Amy did great finding trilobites. I think they found more then anybody else. Today was a little bit of everything. Trilo's, gastro's, brach's, bivalves, cephalopod, etc... I myself found a few mostly complete Greenops sp. One was the most complete one I have ever found, and nice preservation. I am hoping that everyone who participated in todays hunt will, when they have time, respond and possibly post their finds. I will post my trilos and a few other things but I will start by posting a pic of Bjohn170 (Bryce), with his first ever Trilobite. It was the only pic I took on-site. By the way everyone,please wish Fossildude19 (Tim) Happy Birthday!
  6. Today was a totally awesome day for fossilhunting here in Central New York! The weather was great for March and I had great company. And I haven't even mentioned the fossils yet. I had made plans to get out on a Devonian dig with my friends Stephen( @Buffalopterus ), Trevor, and Gary. I got to the site around 8am and was delighted that it was nice and Sunny. I was surprised when another car showed up and it turned out to be Eric, ( I can't remember forum name). The other guys showed up around 10, followed by Eric's friend Cassie. I really enjoyed everyone's company we all were joking around and laughing the entire day. As the sun got higher it kept getting warmer. And it seemed that everyone was finding stuff. Trilobites were very abundant today. Everyone found multiples I think 5 mostly complete Dipluera's were found today even though they were all small. I lost track of how many Greenops were found, but it was alot, and there were a couple Eldredgeops in the mix. I will say the the Greenops that were found by Trevor were the biggest and nicest ones that I have ever seen from there. He probably found the most Trilos out of everyone today. Lots of nice Brachs, Bivalves, and Gastros, as well. Just a great day all around. Here are my finds. And yes I got another Dipluera!
  7. Hi All, Took a trip last weekend to break rock @ Swatara State Park. Formation is Mahantango, however as I understand, the material itself is a roadcut transplant from nearby I-81. Spent about 5 hours looking and did fairly well overall. Main goal was trilobites (have yet to find any personally - goal achieved). Highlight is a possible Phyllocarid (suggested species - Echinocaris). I've attempted to ID mostly everything, however please feel free to correct me as I'm still learing. Few photos from the site: Looking down from atop the formation In situ Brachiopod - Cyrtina hamiltonensis? Brachipod?, Mucrospirifer?, Unsure of the 3rd photo. Coral and Sponge have been suggested. Possibly Receptaculites? Or maybe Bryozoan? Trilobite - Trinucleus? Trilobite - Greenops pygidum? Trilobite - Greenops pygidum? Trilobite - Greenops pygidum Crinoid stem?
  8. Darktooth

    Devonian Dig 4/7/2024

    Today I was supposed to go Fossilhunting in the Silurian Rochester Shale, but plans got changed. All of the people I was supposed to go with came down with one of the many illnesses going around CNY. One of my friends, Tim, was going to my favorite Devonian site so I decided to go with him. My friend Tim is also a member of my local club and I have known him about 20 years. We met up at one of the thruway exits and he followed me to the site. The day was great, without a cloud in the sky. It was still a bit chilly until the sun got higher. Eventually i was able to take my long-sleeved shirts off and put on my t-shirt. Another club member named Sue, who lives only about 5 minutes from the site showed up unexpectedly after about an hour or so. So the 3 of us chatted it up for a couple hours. The finds were pretty typical of the site and many of the usual suspects showed up. I was very happy to find a complete Eldredgeops roller, which has a disarticulated pygidium, right of the bat. I was even more happy when just a short time later I found another Dipluera which looks so similar to the one I found last week. It was partially covered exactly like last week's that at first I thought it was the negative of that one. After a closer look I realized it was a different one all together. I also found a couple Greenops, that might turn out ok as well. All in all it was another great day with good company. I am really liking how 2024 is turning out for me fossil wise and I hope this streak continues. I hope everyone is doing well.
  9. A couple weeks ago I was on a fossilunt with my friend Stephen to a Devonian locale near Canandaigua Lake. This was a new spot to me, but is a known spot located on private property. This area is known for crinoids and large Eldredgeops, some up to 3 inches. I went with Stephen and his friend Gary. We arrived shortly after 9am. We parked in the owner's drive way and had a fairly long walk across to cow pastures to get to a creek located in the treeline at the back of the 2nd pasture. This is a Hamilton Group Moscow Formation Middle Devonian site. Crinoid pieces were very abundant in certain layers as well as trilobites in other layers. I found a fewtrilos mostly complete but covered in matrix. Gary found a decent roller. Some rather large corals were found by Stephen. I enjoyed collecting some Naticocema lineata gastrops as these were new to me. I didn't bring a ton of finds home but I was happy with my haul. I am posting pics of my finds, but will post more when I have a chance to take other pics. Some of my finds do not photo well.
  10. I'm off today not feeling well and was walking my dog. I happened to look down at the rocks in my yard and found this nice thorax and pygidium of a trilobite. I only know the rocks exposed are in the Mahantango. This is the first recognizable fossil I've found aside from small brachs.
  11. minnbuckeye

    Haragan Formation Brachiopod Unknowns

    Having just returned from a trip to Oklahoma, I tried identifying my finds from the Lower Devonian's Haragan Formation. Success was had except these five fossils. Any help is graciously accepted! 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
  12. While researching what caused the current invertebrate fossil of the month to have such a wonderful iridescence (www.thefossilforum.com), I came across some interesting info on preservation of color patterns in fossil shells. In Northern California where I live, most of the color of a fossil shell disappears after a few thousand years. The pattern of color is gone in a couple million years. While in Texas, I collected Texigryphea from the early Cretaceous that still had color patterns of dark radial bands. Finding a paper about Devonian brachiopods with color patterns surprised me. See: http://www.bioone.org/doi/full/10.4202/app.2010.0066 “First Colour-Patterned Strophomenide Brachiopod from the Earliest Devonian of Podolia, Ukraine” by Andrzej Baliński, found in Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 55(4):695-700. 2010. The first figure below shows the spotted pattern found on the convex shell of a strophomenid brachiopod from Ukraine. Wow, what a camouflage! The brachiopods blended right in against the light-colored rock with dark spots. I am reminded of well camouflaged modern mottled and spotted moths that are hard to see when they are on certain trees and rocks. The second figure shows a variety of color patterns found in fossil brachiopods. The paper suggests that brachiopods with colors and patterns occur in shallow water in the photic zone and in areas with warmer water. Few are found in cold polar waters. A similar distribution of colored shells and mollusks exists today. Shallow tropical species are very colorful while polar and deep water species are not. Show us some of your older fossil shells with colored patterns: Cretaceous and older.
  13. Jasperfossils

    Tournaisian fossils

    These fossils are from old coast defences. They are probably from the region around Tournais, the type locality of the Tournaisian. Can someone help me to ID these? I cant find any good literature to ID these. thanks. Jasper
  14. svcgoat

    Brachiopods to be IDed

    In order to update my spreadsheet I need the following ided
  15. Lone Hunter

    Pennsylvanian fossils part 2

    Some of these fossils are so tiny it's really hard to get clear pictures, like #12, these are scattered in several places not much bigger than fishing line, guessing echinoid spines? #7 undecided if these are brachiopods or maybe lungfish teeth? #8 looks like a battle ground, deconstructed echinoid and parts of crinoids? Not sure what to make of all that
  16. This is my last post for the foreseeable future and want to get an ID on all of these. Found this last summer after big flood churned up creek in Eagle Ford formation, it's not unusual to find imported erosion control rocks with crinoid stems but they're usually big and heavy and harder than concrete so when i saw this small one I grabbed it. I plopped it down on dog bed and took one practice pic (about 10" long #1) then when I picked it up it started to fall apart and I realized it was still wet, never completely cured, still had soft clay. I'm not familiar with rocks out west is this normally how fossils are found there? How did this rock manage to get dug up, loaded, travel at least 50 miles then get dumped and never dry out or get smashed to peices? Pic #2 is what remained after removing all soft parts and drying. Anyway it was a mini fossil hunting trip all in one rock and just wish everything wasn't so tiny! #3 was the prettiest but can't tell if it's a brachiopod or not. #4 Marginfera? #5 brachiopod? #6 columnal I thought would be easy to ID but no. #9 Composita sp? #10 unknown gastropod and crinoid stems. #11 another Composita? I'll do a second post with the rest it's too many pictures.
  17. Hello Everyone! I managed to get out to hunt for fossils twice this week with today being absolutely awesome. Tuesday I went out with my friend Mike, in hopes of finding Trilobites. Had a great time even though I didn't find any whole Trilos. Mostly Cephalons and Pygidiums. I found a few decent brachiopods. Even though I didn't have much luck it was nice to get out with a friend and enjoy the day. And I was happy for Mike as he found 2 Greenops that I believe are both whole. He has only found 1 complete Eldredgeops in the past so this will be a nice edition to his collection. But today was a whole different story. I invited a few people to come with me today, but they all backed out. So I ended up going by myself. I left the house about 5:30 am. I was not happy when it started raining especially because the forecast didn't call for it. Thankfully when I got there it was just sprinkling and it stayed that way for the 5 and a half hours that I was there. I started my hunt finding alot of decent bivalves, which are not my favorite but were decent enough that I kept them.every once and awhile I would find a trilo head or tail but nothing special. Then eventually I found what appears to be a disarticulated Dipluera, though it might be whole and is mostly under the surface of the matrix. A little while later I find a roller which I believe is complete. Then I lift up a slab and find Dipluera cephalon and part of the thorax stuck to the bottom upside down. I looked down and saw the negative which was complete but the rest of the trilo had fallen off disintegrated. Oh what a Heartbreaker! But I kept going and then I found another roller that is whole except for a portion of the tail came off. Then I found a thorax and pygidium and I am not sure if the cephalon it buried in the matrix or not. Shortly after that I found a negative of a different Dipluera thorax and pygidium, but no matter how much I searched I couldn't find the positive. Also in the mix is a complete Greenops and a partial. I found a huge bivalve, probably the biggest that I have ever seen. I will have to post it in the id section when I get a chance. I should mention that all of the Dipluera's are small and they all need to be prepped, including the Greenops. But what a day! I definitely left there satisfied. Without further adoo here are pics for your viewing pleasure!
  18. From the album: Middle Devonian

    Mucrospirifer thedfordensis Spiriferid Brachiopod (open shell) Middle Devonian Widder Shale Hungry Hollow Arkona, Ontario A gift from Kane
  19. Today I was fortunate enough to get back out on another fossilhunt. Even though I went to bed later then I wanted about 3:50 am I woke up and tossed and turned for the next hour. I was very excited to get back to the site after last week's fun. So I ended up leaving a bit earlier than originally planned. I stopped to get myself a breakfast sandwich and when I got back in my car, a feeling washed over me that today I was going to be lucky. Of course I feel that way everytime I go hunting, but it doesn't always happen. The ride was dark and foggy. This time of year you really have to pay attention to the deer population. We have many in New York and it is now hunting season. So they are very active between sunset till sunrise. Surprisingly I didn't see many on the way there, but just missed a small one that ran in front of my car on the way home. I arrived at 7 am as it was just starting to get light. But between the fog and clouds it was rather gloomy. It started sprinkling but I read the weather report so I was prepared. I was glad to find the area just the way I left it last week. I wanted to work the same spot, but just go deeper. Things started off kind of slow. With the exception of a decent Dipluera cephalon all I was finding was many of the common smaller Brachiopods and Bivalves. But then it happened! I was lifting up a rather big slab, when I flipped over had half of the negative from a Dipluera. The positive was under a bunch of muddy water due to the rain, so I couldn't even see it. It took me awhile to get the water to drain so I could see what I was working with. Once the water was gone I see the back end of the trilo. I could tell that the front half was still attached to the piece I pulled of the top. Even though it was broke I was excited. I figured if I could get both halves, the trilo could be glued back and prepped. Unfortunately when I tried to remove the bottom portion the trilo broke into a bunch of pieces. I tried to not let this ruin my day. I have done this long enough to know that when you find a decent Dipluera there are usually others close by. So I continued working on removing slabs. I don't think more the 10 -15 minutes went by maybe 3 or 4 pieces of rock, when it happened again! I lifted up a slab, flipped it over and there was a complete negative of a Dipluera! I looked down and in the back corner of where I was digging was the positive! My heart was pounding! Now if I could just remove it without it falling apart like the first one. And I needed to move quick before the rainwater started to accumulate to much around the trilo. After a few minutes of careful extraction: success! I came out unbroken! This really meant alot to me today. Most of those who know me know that I have found alot of these over the years. I have either sold, traded, or given away as gifts all that I found. So it is nice to be able to have one in my collection again. After I pulled out this Dipluera there was also a Greenops laying in the same general area. After removing that I was pretty satisfied and only stayed a little while longer. I was tired and the rain was starting to really soak through my clothes. So all in all I had a pretty good day. Here are some pics. 1st- what it looked like when I arrived. 2nd- my truck "The Fossil Mobile" 3rd- Dipluera in-situ
  20. ThePhysicist

    A Sea in the Mountains

    It's 8:30am, below freezing, and cloudy - the perfect time to hike up a mountain to collect fossils! A rock-hounding buddy of mine recently stumbled upon a hash layer on one of the hikes we've done in Montana, and kindly offered to show me. Unfortunately the layer wasn't at the beginning of the trail, rather the end, so we had to climb 1,900 ft (6 statue of liberty's) and millions of years in geology to get to it - nature is rarely conducive to human ambition. After the short (2.5 mile) but steep hike, we made it to rock slides where the layer was being eroded and immediately began spotting plates of brachiopod hash - I can't believe I missed them before! Based on the geologic map of the area, I suspect these are Late Devonian-Early Mississippian in age. Wacking my geologic pick into the hill to carefully climb the steep slopes of the rockfalls, I began spotting some nice specimens. They were preserved in a pretty powder blue, and easy to spot against the dark matrix of the ancient sea floor. Unfortunately a lot of them appeared smashed in their tumbling down the hill. I loaded up my backpack with probably 40-50 lbs of rock, which in hindsight was not the best decision I've ever made. Here are some of the more interesting pieces (I don't know them any more precisely than "brachiopod", feel free to chime in brach fans): I was especially hoping to find a winged brach - I didn't find a nice one - but my friend generously gifted me one he found minutes after I mentioned hoping to find one. Hope you enjoyed! I'll be headed back to Texas where I have more trips in mind...
  21. My annual excursion to visit my family which migrated to Kentucky years ago took place at the end of October into November, lasting two weeks. Of course, the planned trip took me in the vicinity of some excellent fossil bearing sediments and though quality time with family was the primary purpose, I did hope to add to my collection. All of the spots I visited were ones I've been to before; however, the first stop was a new one for me- Paulding, well known and documented on the Forum for its Middle Devonian marine fauna. I drove from the suburbs of New York City for almost eleven hours, raining most of the way, arriving at and spending the night at a hotel in Defiance, Ohio. Paulding was about fifteen minutes away. Drove there the following morning, It was a brisk forty degrees, mostly cloudy, but sunny at times. A TFF member I was supposed to hook up with there unfortunately had to bail last minute. A nearby quarry which exposes the famed Devonian Silica Shale had, years ago, stopped allowing collectors to hunt there. There was a big outcry and the quarry set up a fossil park dumping fossiliferous rock onto a property they owned which the public were free to collect from. Much of it is now overgrown and much of the rock has been reduced to gravel. However, there are still many fossiliferous chunks out there if one is willing to look.
  22. I have a nice little slab of Platteville Formation (Mifflin Member) from the Ordovician of SW Wisconsin that I received from @connorp late last year. I am working on a post that describes all of the great things in it, but want to get a couple of ID's cleared up so I can be more concise in that post. Here are 8 brachiopods found on the slab, some of which I feel pretty good about the ID (but always open to corrections) and some I have no clue on. I have been through several posts by @Tidgy's Dad, @minnbuckeye, and others but still need some help. Thanks for any insights anyone can offer. Each picture is numbered in the upper left. Mike Here is a picture of the small slab I'm pretty sure on this one (#2 below) even though much of it is not visible, but I think the shape and coarse ornamentation gives it away for the species found in this formation. I am torn on this one and despite the beautiful preservation on the exterior. It would be really helpful to see the interior or even the hinge line. But I'm hoping this will be distinctive enough for the experts out there. Not really certain here, this was my best guess, but I could be way off. This one is hard as it is only partially exposed and right at the edge of the slab. Ornamentation is very similar to #3 above, but it has more curvature from what I can see. I'll try to put together some better pictures. This ID looks pretty good with the strong ridge down the center even though much of the shell is buried. I just don't know, there are several similar looking forms found in the formation. I wish I could get this cleaner, but that matrix is very hard at this point. But that ornamentation should be very distinctive, even if half of it is only peeking out. It almost looks more like some bivalves I have seen, but nothing like it in the Ordovician that I am aware of. Thanks again for any suggestion anyone can offer.
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