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Hi all. I know it's been a long time since I've posted anything on the forum, but now that I'm back from college I'm planning on being more active. Today I wanted to post this odd fossil I found this past summer at a Hell Creek formation microsite in eastern Montana. I've never seen anything quite like it before, but my guess is that it's some odd denticle from a cartilaginous fish of some variety OR alternatively it could just be an odd fish tooth (maybe pharyngeal?). It measures about 4 mm from base to tip and a little bit over 1 mm at its widest. Any input would be appreciated. -Noel
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Hello! Help please to identify a genus. I didnt found before such teeth... I saw some teeth on the ealsmo.com with some similarity (planktivorous rays) but they have others crown... Length: 5 mm. Age: Middle Miocene. Western Ukraine. Thanks in advance!
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
The top two are ray dermal scutes, they are like scales embedded in the skin of the ray. Ignore the bottom two.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
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Another tooth of a ray from the family Myliobatidae.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
These ray teeth are often assigned to the genus Myliobatis but other authors dispute this designation. They are certainly some ember of the family Myliobatidae.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
This is a lateral tooth from the ray genus Rhinoptera.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
These ray teeth are best identified by there profile shape.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
These ray teeth fit together to form a broad, flat crushing dental plate. The lowers have a distinctive V shape and the uppers have rounded, slightly swept back ends.-
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From the album: Gainesville Florida Microscopic Miocene
Stingray teeth that are most commonly assigned to the genus Dasyatis. -
Well, I know I said my last post on these tiny fossils would be my last, but I was wrong. Everyone was very helpful with the previous questions (as usual) so I'm back with a couple more tiny teeth out of the Gainesville Creek matrix that is generally Miocene aged Hawthorn Fm. All of these are pretty small, most just a few mm's across. You can see previous posts here for other info or ID's: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/119097-gainesville-shark-teeth-question/&tab=comments#comment-1305867 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/114209-north-florida-fun/&tab=comments#comment-1264293 http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/119245-florida-mysteries/&tab=comments#comment-1309402 The first one is what I have tentatively called a Raja type tooth. But I know these are rare out of this material and it looks a bit different than other teeth labelled as this, so I am uncertain. Sorry for the big globs of sticky stuff in two of the pictures, I still have not mastered some of the fine points of pulling individual features out of pictures to clean them up - a work in progress. The next one are some ray dermal scutes. OK, I feel pretty good about the top two, but not the bottom two. In fact the lower right is almost certainly something else, I just don't know what. Any thoughts? Next up are some drum fish type teeth. I have separated what I picked from the matrix into three general types, two of which I feel good about the ID's. The first are what are generally called Pogonias, a genus of Drum fish. In this matrix, they are generally small, black in color, variably shaped and with a root that is rather plain (two on right side of picture). They are set as one layer of teeth in a bony plate. The second group of teeth are often blue in color, tend to be oblong, often have a figure-8 shape to the root and I found numerous multi-tooth associations where there are many teeth stacked on top of each other. I found several posts on the the forum and on the web that identified these as wrasse teeth, probably of the genus Labrodon. It is the third set of teeth that I am unsure of, they look similar to Pogonias, but generally are not as black and smooth and have a different root. it is a bit tapered and is striated. Any idea on what these are from? Lastly are several types of what I have thrown into my "unknown fish teeth" bucket. Maybe that is how they will remain and that is fine, maybe some are not even fish teeth. If anyone recognizes any of them, that would be great! The first two look similar to barracuda teeth, of which I found many, but differ in shape a bit. The first ones are thicker and not as symmetrical as my barracuda teeth and the second ones have a distinctive "S"-shape to them. The next ones: I just don't know. Ok, that's all for now. Thanks for any help you can offer. Mike
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Took the relatively short trip down to Purse State Park last weekend and had quite a bit of success! Best find was certainly a fairly large chuck of what I think is turtle shell, along with a very much alive turtle that rested with us for our lunch before returning to the water. The dream of finding anything marine mammal or a somewhat complete ray plate remains for next time!
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From the album: A.C.'s Cretaceous New Jersey
Brachyrhizodus wichitaensis (Roemer) Left Ramanessin Brook, Right Big Brook-
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South Alabama Eocene Period Fossil Hunting w/ the Kids *Best Find This Far
AveReel Outdoors posted a topic in Member Collections
So, I've been hunting sharks teeth on and off in South Alabama since a young child. Since my two kids have gotten self sufficient, me and the wife have been taking alot of trips to the river to look for teeth. Finding the normal small teeth, for our area, got me to wondering if there were bigger teeth in our area. That led me to some late nights of researching the ins and outs of my area. The area we are close to has alot of Eocene era fossils and I quickly learned the Carcharocles auriculatus was THE SHARK during this time period. So, my goal became to find a complete tooth in my little honey hole. We would spend weekend after weekend at the river with the kids. My 8yo and 3yo right there with us digging and sifting! Both who want nothing more than to become paleontologist when they get older and sit there picking out ray plates, vertebrae, and teeth with excitement growing every time they see something in the sifter. Over the past several weeks, we have dug 100s of teeth and many other cool fossils which I have added to our collection but just chips of the elusive Carcharocles auriculatus teeth were all we were finding. Last night while at church, I was talking with a family about our finds thus far. You could see their kid's eyes lighting up with curiosity and they asked if we could take them sometime. We had originally planned on taking time to do some house stuff but I could tell their kids really wanted to go. We made a plan to meet this morning before the rain. We made the long hike to the hunting grounds and began to dig and sift. One after the other, the kids and their parents were yelling with excitement finding their first teeth! I was digging around getting dirt for them to sift when I felt that unmistakable sound of hitting something solid. I cleaned around the area and I saw a serrated edged tooth. Surely not...not a complete tooth. I carefully cleaned around the area to make sure not to damage it. I couldn't believe my eyes. A full tooth! I began to shake a little with excitement. I pulled it from the earth and showed everyone. This only pumped them up even more. Although this tooth is rare for our area, we kept digging with no luck of finding another one. The rain began to come in so we cut the trip short but I've babied this thing around all day, picking it up to make sure it is real and I wasn't dreaming. I know it's no 4" tooth but for me, it may as well be. It's become an infatuation for me and the family, so much so I have been looking at planning a family vacation around fossil hunting. My 8yo has expressed alot of interest in finding a megalodon tooth. So, if you guys and gals know of a good place I can take the family to do something like this please share! Below are a few pictures of the things we have found over the past few months as well as my Carcharocles auriculatus tooth I found today.- 13 replies
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Here is another Cabezon taxa that I am having a hard time identifying. Is it Pseudohypolophus? Rhombodus? Myladephus? Something else? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Randy
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Hello, below are photos of some verts I found at Big Brook Park in Marlboro NJ. (Late cretaceous, Mount Laurel formation). I thought they were both ray verts, upon taking another look however I noticed there are some slight differences in their build. I wanted to see if anyone had any clarification for me. I've checked the usual sites, njfossils.net and njfossils.com, but I think I don't know how to interpret different features. I took photos of each face (anterior, posterior),and tops and bottoms (dorsal/ventral sides). Both were found, to my knowledge, in the Mount Laurel formation at Big Brook. I also tried to take a close up of what appeared to be spinal process attachment points on the smaller vert. Aside from one vert being more oval than the other, the larger seems to decrease in surface area/diameter from anterior to posterior, while the smaller seems to form a wedge or "v" shape along the dorsal-ventral axis. I tried to capture this in the photos but I'm limited by my equipment. Ultimately, I'd like to confirm if these are both ray verts, or if either come from anything else. Thank you, Pic A (possible process attachment points on small vert): Pic. B Pic. C Pic. D: Pic E
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I have two unknown fossils one being a tooth and the other I believe is a ray mouthplate/jaw bone. Sorry about the photo quality on the mouth plate it had a strange shape. Thanks
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Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros From Hallencourt France
MarcoSr posted a topic in Fossil Hunting Trips
Some of my fossil hunting trips take place at home breaking down and looking through matrix obtained from collectors worldwide. This matrix came from the Cretaceous (Campanian) of Hallencourt France. Most of the nicer specimens that I found in this matrix were in the 1.5mm to 4 or 5mm size range. Almost all of the larger teeth were damaged (missing roots, broken root lobes, crown damage). The matrix is a very hard chalk which requires a pick ax or jack hammer to get the matrix from the formation which adds to the tooth damage. I am posting below pictures of a small number of the nicer and more unusual specimens which I found. Chiloscyllium greeni were very numerous in this matrix. There were a very limited number of ray teeth species found. However, I did find multiple shark species that were new to my collection. I also posted a few other specimens which I do not know what they are. Most specimens were very light colored which required a black background for the pictures which I really don’t like to use. Each new matrix that I search makes me more of an avid micro tooth collector. If anyone has or can collect good matrix with shark, ray, and fish micros please send me a PM. Carcharias latus Chiloscyllium greeni crab claw tip Cretalamna appendiculata Anomotodon hermani Cederstroemia havreensis Crassescyliorhinus germanicus Galeorhinus girardoti Palaeogaleus havreensis Paraorthacodus conicus Pseudocorax laevis fish teeth shark cartilage shells Squalicorax sp. Squatirhina kannensis unknown (See below replies) Marco Sr.- 18 replies
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I found this yesterday on a fla beach. Appears to be fossilized dental plate from a ray. Can anyone help me verify the ID and estimate the age. Im guessing based on internet photos.
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Hello! Help please to identify this fossil. I think that it is tooth of some Ray. May be, Torpedo..? On a second photo - together with a male Dasyatis. Max. radius - 1,5 mm. Middle Miocene. Western Ukraine. Thanks in advance!
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Recovered the below bone from the Peace River a few weeks ago and put it aside thinking it was a partial bird bone or small reptile. On closer examination I can see serrations running along the length of the two sides. This now has me thinking Ray barb. The specimen is 26mm long by 10mm at the wide joint end. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
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In February, I sifted at the shoreline on Caspersen Beach and Venice Beach, Florida. Finds include: (left) a crab claw & 2 ray tail barbs..... plus a variety of small shark teeth and ray mouth plates.
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My question is exactly in the title, Can you identify ray teeth without locality info? I got some as a gift a long time ago and have no information on location and age and was wondering if its possible to identify to genus or even family
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Howdy! How do you tell a Shark Vertebra from a Ray Vertebra? I can't seem to find much info online about Ray Verts. I came across (and vaguely remembered reading on a post) that ray vertebrae are more rectangular....is that true? Here are a few vertebrae that I think might be ray and if I could get a positive yay or nay on that.....I'd be very grateful! These are from Post Oak Creek in Texas - Cretaceous Era Size 4mm Size 3 mm