Ruger9a Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Good evening folks. I am requesting a verification/confirmation for a tooth I purchased over 10 years ago listed as Platybelodon, Miocene, Gansu, China. It measures 7cm long, 4.2cm wide and 6.3cm tall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Wow, what a mess, I absolutely love it!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Thanks, I love it too. This is one of my better Platy teeth of this size. Just wish I could nail the exact species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Being a herbivore tooth collector must be the loneliest field in this forum:-( 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I can't verify this, but the label I have on my examples says Platybelodon danovi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Very, very cool tooth! Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 hours ago, ParkerPaleo said: I can't verify this, but the label I have on my examples says Platybelodon danovi Thank you ParkerPaleo. I'll look into the danovi species and "hopefully" find a match. Any chance you could post a photo of your specimen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I'm trying to create my own collection of Proboscidean teeth. So far I have Mammoth, Mastodon, Gomphothere, and recently acquired a Deinotherium. I'm really loving seeing your freakish dentures from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, caldigger said: I'm trying to create my own collection of Proboscidean teeth. So far I have Mammoth, Mastodon, Gomphothere, and recently acquired a Deinotherium. I'm really loving seeing your freakish dentures from China. Great, because there are more to come. I quit collecting mammoth teeth because after 5 - 10 years they would shrink and flake off. It happened to three of the five I own. Even though they were purchased in different years and from different sellers/locations. Really disappointing. When will we see your collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ruger9a said: Great, because there are more to come. I quit collecting mammoth teeth because after 5 - 10 years they would shrink and flake off. It happened to three of the five I own. Even though they were purchased in different years and from different sellers/locations. Really disappointing. When will we see your collection? I think that happens to teeth from the North Sea if not properly consolidated. I heard that somewhere on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Scylla said: I think that happens to teeth from the North Sea if not properly consolidated. I heard that somewhere on the forum. Yeah, I knew that before purchasing them but was told they had been properly preserved. Then again, I should have known better than to believe everything I'm told...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Ruger9a said: Thank you ParkerPaleo. I'll look into the danovi species and "hopefully" find a match. Any chance you could post a photo of your specimen? Even better, have 3 examples. I have larger and smaller if you want to see other growth ranges but these are in your size range. Don't fear, you aren't the only mammalian paleontologist around here Though we are a bit under-represented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, ParkerPaleo said: Even better, have 3 examples. I have larger and smaller if you want to see other growth ranges but these are in your size range. Don't fear, you aren't the only mammalian paleontologist around here Though we are a bit under-represented. Wow, that's great!! I thought I was all alone! Those are very nice teeth! I have several different types of Platy or Amebelodon teeth, they are basically in the same size range as your smaller teeth. I have only two larger Platy teeth that were actually listed as just Gomphothere, one is only a partial, about 3/4 complete. I believe I have some are milk teeth as well. It's difficult for me to distinguish between Amebelodon or Platybelodon or...…sometimes. I'll post more photos here if you don't mind trying to help me confirm my analysis of what species they are. I'm finding it very difficult to locate research information on these teeth, all herbivore teeth in general. Seems all/any carnivore teeth are highly prized by much of the collecting community which means higher prices and/or lesser quality specimens or just outright fakes. That's one of the original reasons I began to look at these teeth, besides (to me) they are the most beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ruger9a said: besides (to me) they are the most beautiful! You will never be alone brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ruger9a said: Wow, that's great!! I thought I was all alone! Those are very nice teeth! I have several different types of Platy or Amebelodon teeth, they are basically in the same size range as your smaller teeth. I have only two larger Platy teeth that were actually listed as just Gomphothere, one is only a partial, about 3/4 complete. I believe I have some are milk teeth as well. It's difficult for me to distinguish between Amebelodon or Platybelodon or...…sometimes. I'll post more photos here if you don't mind trying to help me confirm my analysis of what species they are. I'm finding it very difficult to locate research information on these teeth, all herbivore teeth in general. Seems all/any carnivore teeth are highly prized by much of the collecting community which means higher prices and/or lesser quality specimens or just outright fakes. That's one of the original reasons I began to look at these teeth, besides (to me) they are the most beautiful! https://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app58/app20110009.pdf Maybe an okay starting point for research? Lots of references. At least its publicly available. I'm happy to help, I'll learn in the process too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, ParkerPaleo said: https://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app58/app20110009.pdf Maybe an okay starting point for research? Lots of references. At least its publicly available. I'm happy to help, I'll learn in the process too. Thanks for the link. I do have this paper and it was/is a big help. Just wish the teeth photos were closer, clearer and more defining. I did additional research on google and kinda got lost in all the (misleading) links without getting much accomplished. Printed off several references and when I began comparing them to my teeth, they all began to look alike. Thanks for your help in our little "sub-group" of herbivore teeth collectors. I will be posting some new photos - probably tomorrow. 5 hours ago, caldigger said: You will never be alone brother! :-) Thanks! You either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Here is another tooth from Amebelodon as best as I can tell. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 12:17 PM, ParkerPaleo said: Even better, have 3 examples. I have larger and smaller if you want to see other growth ranges but these are in your size range. Don't fear, you aren't the only mammalian paleontologist around here Though we are a bit under-represented. @ParkerPaleo Sorry I forgot to add the at sign.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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