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Definitely a left humerus of some type.

If this is croc then it has some quite slender legs.

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Just guessing since we have little comparative material and the Kem Kem has several more gracile Crocodyliforms.  Here is a Cretaceous Croc humerus from Brazil

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There's still a lot of mysteries in the Kem Kem beds. I have a mystery humerus as well. Haven't figured out what it's from yet either. The slenderness is similar to the one Haravex posted. But the deltopectoral crest seems to be a bit wider and higher. These seem to be different animals. But there's not a whole lot of good reference that I can find for crocs. And they seem to vary quite a bit too.

 

Tip of my index finger to base of my thumb is about 14 cm.

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Its an unknown but both the specimen in question and Brazilian example have a pcd (posterior circular depression) which is or is not in your specimen .

 

Here is one Crocodyliform its humerus length measures 8 cm no pictures.

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Ok so this is my understanding 1 and 2 are both dorsal I suspect number 1 is a sub adult Spinosaurus. and 3 and 4 are associated and both caudal possibly mid? 

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9 hours ago, Troodon said:

Its an unknown but both the specimen in question and Brazilian example have a pcd (posterior circular depression) which is or is not in your specimen .

 

Here is one Crocodyliform its humerus length measures 8 cm no pictures.

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The one I have doesn't have a PCD

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11 hours ago, Haravex said:

1.

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1 looks like spinosaur dorsal. But is that the hint of a keel I see? I have a similar vertebra that's nearly identical except mine has a strong keel and the rugose plateau known from Sigilmassasaurus.

2 looks like dorsal of something else. Possibly croc maybe.

11 hours ago, Haravex said:

3. 

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These look like croc caudals to me. Pretty nice ones too.

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1 looks like a very nice  Spinosaurus centrum not sure I see a platform to call it Sigilmassasaurus 

2 I dont see a Spinosaurid, not sure beyond that.  Also nice

3 & 4 agree with LT look like Croc and super preserved one 

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48 minutes ago, Troodon said:

1 looks like a very nice  Spinosaurus centrum not sure I see a platform to call it Sigilmassasaurus

To clarify if it wasn't 100% clear. I meant that the vert centrum I have looks like it's likely Sigilmassasaurus. And the one Haravex posted looks almost the same except that it seems to fit with Spinosaurus because it seems to lack those features.

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3 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

To clarify if it wasn't 100% clear. I meant that the vert centrum I have looks like it's likely Sigilmassasaurus. And the one Haravex posted looks almost the same except that it seems to fit with Spinosaurus because it seems to lack those features.

Sorry :dinothumb:

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Ok thanks for your help guys it means a lot, so my initial hunch of the two caudal vertebrae being croc was right must have been a bloody big crocodile (350g, pre to post zygapophysis 9.45cm, chevron facet to neural spine 10.2cm, parapophysis to parapophysis 7.45cm)

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Ok these are the final pieces I'm unsure of saying that I know where they are from number 5 is a cervical vertebrae and 6 is a dorsal looks to be juvenile by the unfused centrum.

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6 minutes ago, Haravex said:

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I have a very similar one to #5. I still have yet to find out what it is. I think your idea of it being some type of cervical vert might be the right direction. But other than that I really don't know. The closest I was able to find was Champsosaurus from the Hell Creek formation. But that would be quite something if Champsosaurs appeared in the Kem Kem group.

 

The #6 is croc. I'm thinking anterior dorsal.

 

Here's an old photo pre-prep that includes the verts I have that are similar to your #1 and #5. Middle bottom.

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2 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

I have a very similar one to #5. I still have yet to find out what it is. I think your idea of it being some type of cervical vert might be the right direction. But other than that I really don't know. The closest I was able to find was Champsosaurus from the Hell Creek formation. But that would be quite something if Champsosaurs appeared in the Kem Kem group.

 

 

This might be very interesting then, don't know if you remember this from a while back?

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/79563-kem-kem-vertebrae-id-thread/&do=findComment&comment=839725

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/79563-kem-kem-vertebrae-id-thread/&do=findComment&comment=945768

 

Not the first time Champsosaurus has come up when talking about kem kem.

 

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1 hour ago, LordTrilobite said:

Indeed. Yeah those look similar but much smaller.

Also do you want to use these in that vertebrae topic you have? if so feel free to use them as examples.

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Just now, Haravex said:

Also do you want to use these in that vertebrae topic you have? if so feel free to use them as examples.

Alright cool. You're of course free to post them in the extended discussion there. Anything with a positive ID we can be confident in I can add to the first post as well for reference.

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