Bguild Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Hi There, I was able to get out to one of my usual spots to split shale in search of Carboniferous plants. I came across this small, odd imprint. It doesn't look like any Carboniferous plant species I've come across and the venation looks more like that of an insect wing than a plant. That said, insect remnants haven't been found at this locality, but a very rare, very old insect was found nearby. Does anyone have a clue as to what this is? Is it oddly arranged plant pieces, or something else? Thanks! Location: North Attleborough, Massachusetts Formation: Rhode Island Formation Age: Carboniferous (300 million) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Was it fully encased in the shale? ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bguild Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, IsaacTheFossilMan said: Was it fully encased in the shale? Yes, was on the corner or a piece I split. Wish I had a bigger piece of whatever this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I think this may be part of a root mass. Cropped and contrasted: 2 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Bguild said: odd imprint I don't get the impression that this is an impression. Are you sure it isn't a flat septarian concretion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagurus Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I don't think this is an insect wing, Barret. Interesting find, though. Tim's suggestion of a root mass seems like a good possibility. I'm glad you've been able to get out to your site. Mike 1 1 Start the day with a smile and get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bguild Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Pagurus said: I don't think this is an insect wing, Barret. Interesting find, though. Tim's suggestion of a root mass seems like a good possibility. I'm glad you've been able to get out to your site. Mike Great! Thanks for taking a look. Roots for all those plants laying around would make sense The weather up here was too amazing this past week, had to find a time to get out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Is it possible those are Chondrite trace fossils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Rockwood said: I don't get the impression that this is an impression. Are you sure it isn't a flat septarian concretion ? Based on the photos i would agree that it looks more like inorganic mineral veins of the septarian kind however the almost 2D nature suggests mini 'cleats' that form in coalified fossil plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 hours ago, westcoast said: the almost 2D nature Needs more exploration in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Lone Hunter said: Is it possible those are Chondrite trace fossils? Not with the different coloring - the plants at this location have the same preservation as the famous St. Clair ferns. They are covered with pyrophyllite. I'm pretty sure this is plant material, and root mass makes the most sense to me here. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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