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Is there any way to identify these fossil leaves?


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Hello everyone, greetings. I recently bought some fossil leaves. I contacted the seller and was surprised that the fossils were from here in Nicaragua, as I didn't know there were fossil sites here. I did not find information in pbdb navigator of the exact place where the seller found them since he collects them and found them himself, but in some studies on the net I found that the area of discovery is in the Brito Formation, a sector that covers a large part from the country's Pacific and dates from the Eocene, that is, from about 56 to 34 million years ago, which coincides with other description studies of some mammals found in this study area that I was able to read. My question is, is there any way to identify the leaves with a specific plant?
I still haven't confirmed if what the seller told me is true that they are from here, but he assured me that they are, so much so that he offered me to go to the place where he found them, which I will probably go to in January next year to verify it on my own.

I leave photos of the leaves that I took. These days I'll probably buy two more pieces from him that I also found from the seller in the same place.

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They can probably be identified down to species. I'm not the expert on these so I will let others help with ID.

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36 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

Probablemente se pueden identificar hasta la especie. No soy un experto en esto, así que dejaré que otros me ayuden con la identificación.

Hopefully someone expert in plants can identify them

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These are some photos with measurements of both pieces and side photos of both also in case they are useful to you

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1 hour ago, Brandy Cole said:

Las plantas no son mi área de conocimiento, pero estos especímenes tienen detalles asombrosos.

Yes, the details are very fine I guess although I'm not sure since they are the first plant fossils I have. I have searched on my own for information on similarities with Eocene plants on the internet but unfortunately I have not been able to find anything

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2 hours ago, JBkansas said:

Parece que hay algunos sitios fósiles conocidos en Nicaragua:

 

https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/

if there are fossiliferous sites, but those that are marked in the Pacific region of the country do not correspond to the site where the leaves were found, that is why I ask for your help if someone manages to identify them. As I mentioned before, the only thing I know is that where they were found they correspond to the Brito formation dating from the Eocene.

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The pictures reminds me of tufa (not tuff) depositional systems, so Eocene to present dating. 

Here is an example from Romania(in my collection): 8.jpg.f4e67d9469f1d8860e749d4f84d3cdd8.thumb.jpg.bdf9bbd10e767e7d264fdb1de2612581.jpg

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1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

Las imágenes me recuerdan a los sistemas de depósito de toba (no toba), por lo que datan del Eoceno al presente. 

Aquí hay un ejemplo de Rumania (en mi colección): 8.jpg.f4e67d9469f1d8860e749d4f84d3cdd8.thumb.jpg.bdf9bbd10e767e7d264fdb1de2612581.jpg

wow, the resemblance is striking. I am not sure that they are the same leaves, but without a doubt the conservation is the same. Do you have more information?

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In my example there are deciduous trees leaves. I agree with you about the conservation. :)

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