ID help, please and thanks!

[Amarykah]

Almost everything was found yesterday at Peace River (FL). I’m still new to fossil hunting. I do my research but still need help - there’s a lot to learn. TIA for anyone who takes the time to let me know what I’ve got here! 

 

In order, I think I have:

 

-Deer ankle bone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Scapula? Turtle shell?

 

-Glyptodont scutes

-Horse/camel incisor?

-Manatee/dugong tooth?

-Shells (I know nothing about these but love these two-wanted to share)

-Gator/plant? Pattern is only on one side 

-Deer tooth?

-Camel/deer tooth?

-Stumped - too many teeth look too similar…tapir?

 

 

-Recent shark tooth finds (contents of the final picture were found on land in Sarasota county and not at the river)

 

 

 

I think that’s more than enough for now  I have quite a few horse/bison/camel/llama/etc teeth that I also need help differentiating, but I want to try a little more before asking for help.

Any good charts/info that help point out differences in these would be greatly appreciated!

 

Adding some pics of recent shark tooth finds just for the fun of sharing. If you see anything special (rare/pathos/etc) that I need to know about, please let me know! Again, thanks in advance for all the help! Any ideas appreciated - if better pics/measurements are needed, just ask

[val horn]

You have a large number of nice things here but too many to go through without numbering.  The first looks to be an astragalus  id will depend on size.  There is one near the middle with a square mesh that suggests human artifact.  It might be worth your while to take your finds to a local fossil club meeting  a local expert could give you more onebon one feedback

[Amarykah]

1 hour ago, val horn said:take your finds to a local fossil club meeting  a local expert could give you more onebon one feedback

Thanks for the tip! I will do that!

[CaptEsteban]

Pix #7 = Glyptodon fossils

[Shellseeker]

15 hours ago, Amarykah said:

-Horse/camel incisor?

No, but rather than tell you what I think it is,  I'll point to a thread that makes me think it is a rare example of a specific mammal.

look up the word "endocast".   Most of your guesses are "spot on"... Get Hulbert's book, The Fossil Vertebrates of Florida...

[Meganeura]

15 hours ago, Amarykah said:

Camel/deer tooth?

This one is also a deer tooth!

[Amarykah]

57 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

No, but rather than tell you what I think it is,  I'll point to a thread that makes me think it is a rare example of a specific mammal.

look up the word "endocast".   Most of your guesses are "spot on"... Get Hulbert's book, The Fossil Vertebrates of Florida...

Thank you so much for this! Love the adventure of figuring things out! I got goosebumps when I read what it is! Thanks for taking the time!

[jpc]

For the second specimen look at turtle shell anatomy.... 

I'll let you google it since you like the adventure.  

 

[debivort]

Here's my take on your shark teeth (all the others are Megs, except for the middle tooth in the third photo, which is a snaggletooth upper).

Very curious what others think about the one marked ??? in the bottom right. @Meganeura@Fin Lover
 

 

[Meganeura]

6 minutes ago, debivort said:

Here's my take on your shark teeth (all the others are Megs, except for the middle tooth in the third photo, which is a snaggletooth upper).

Very curious what others think about the one marked ??? in the bottom right. @Meganeura@Fin Lover
 

 

Most of me thinks tiger, but that secondary spike seems quite large to be tiger. There’s been a couple cow shark teeth found in the Peace but they are rare to the point of being rumours essentially. So I’d be much more likely to say tiger. 
 

also the tooth in the calipers is a baby posty Meg for sure. 

[Meganeura]

16 minutes ago, debivort said:

Here's my take on your shark teeth (all the others are Megs, except for the middle tooth in the third photo, which is a snaggletooth upper).

Very curious what others think about the one marked ??? in the bottom right. @Meganeura@Fin Lover
 

 

Oh also the Mako? On the top middle - C. Hastalis again, just a lower. I don’t believe we get Isurus in the Peace. 

[Meganeura]

@Amarykah can we get more pics, closeups, of the ??? Tooth please?

[Amarykah]

@Meganeura @debivort this is awesome! I came home from the river and my picture became a cool chart! I did have questions about 3 - the “cow/tiger” makes me lean more toward weird tiger. Mako…I don’t think so but I’m still learning. Loves the tiny posterior Meg in the calipers  didn’t realize it’s a juvenile so that’s cool to learn. And the c. Hastalis posterior threw me for a loop.  I’ll post a bunch of pics of the questionable tooth asap - unfortunately that won’t be until tomorrow. 

[Meganeura]

3 minutes ago, Amarykah said:

@Meganeura @debivort this is awesome! I came home from the river and my picture became a cool chart! I did have questions about 3 - the “cow/tiger” makes me lean more toward weird tiger. Mako…I don’t think so but I’m still learning. Loves the tiny posterior Meg in the calipers  didn’t realize it’s a juvenile so that’s cool to learn. And the c. Hastalis posterior threw me for a loop.  I’ll post a bunch of pics of the questionable tooth asap - unfortunately that won’t be until tomorrow. 

No rush - we're not going anywhere! Just happy to be able to help!

[Coco]

Hi,

 

The tooth marked "broken cow shark" is an entire notorynchus upper tooth.

 

Coco

[debivort]

6 hours ago, Coco said:

The tooth marked "broken cow shark" is an entire notorynchus upper tooth.

Very cool. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadnose_sevengill_shark

[Amarykah]

@Meganeura @debivort @Coco

yep, I believe that Coco is correct. It’s a pretty cool tooth! Here is the extra imagery that I promised. 

[Amarykah]

On 3/8/2023 at 9:18 AM, Shellseeker said:

No, but rather than tell you what I think it is,  I'll point to a thread that makes me think it is a rare example of a specific mammal.

look up the word "endocast".   Most of your guesses are "spot on"... Get Hulbert's book, The Fossil Vertebrates of Florida...

I read your thread probably 4x. Very informative; thank you! So…are you saying you think this is a walrus tusk?! I thought I found one in the past and was let down…so I’m reluctant to believe what I think I’m reading haha. BUT when I went to the river yesterday (very far from where I usually go) I think I may have found ANOTHER piece…! And I found something else that I haven’t identified yet that may or may not be related…I’m adding pics of two new finds. 

[Meganeura]

38 minutes ago, Amarykah said:

@Meganeura @debivort @Coco

yep, I believe that Coco is correct. It’s a pretty cool tooth! Here is the extra imagery that I promised. 

Wow. On some of your first trips out you’ve found 2 finds that are INCREDIBLY rare in the peace. Cow shark and Glyptodon tooth. Congratulations - those are awesome! 

[Meganeura]

30 minutes ago, Amarykah said:

I read your thread probably 4x. Very informative; thank you! So…are you saying you think this is a walrus tusk?! I thought I found one in the past and was let down…so I’m reluctant to believe what I think I’m reading haha. BUT when I went to the river yesterday (very far from where I usually go) I think I may have found ANOTHER piece…! And I found something else that I haven’t identified yet that may or may not be related…I’m adding pics of two new finds. 

The original was not walrus tusk - it’s a whale tooth, and that was what @Shellseeker was trying to illustrate I believe. Your 2 new finds - the first looks to just be bone to me, certainly not tusk. The second is a fragment of a mammoth molar, though!

[Amarykah]

25 minutes ago, Meganeura said:

Wow. On some of your first trips out you’ve found 2 finds that are INCREDIBLY rare in the peace. Cow shark and Glyptodon tooth. Congratulations - those are awesome! 

Thank you! That’s empowering! Now I’m on a mission! What else do I need to add to my bucket list that’s super rare? I will find it! (It also helps to tell me I CAN’T find something…then I will definitely find it) 

[Meganeura]

5 minutes ago, Amarykah said:

Thank you! That’s empowering! Now I’m on a mission! What else do I need to add to my bucket list that’s super rare? I will find it! (It also helps to tell me I CAN’T find something…then I will definitely find it) 

Definitely no way you find any terror bird fossils then, or any Smilodon (Saber Tooth Tiger) fossils…  

[Amarykah]

25 minutes ago, Meganeura said:

The original was not walrus tusk - it’s a whale tooth, and that was what @Shellseeker was trying to illustrate I believe. Your 2 new finds - the first looks to just be bone to me, certainly not tusk. The second is a fragment of a mammoth molar, though!

I went back and forth on what @Shellseeker was telling me - the part about it being flattened made me think he meant walrus. So walrus stays on my bucket list of future finds haha. Whale tooth inner core is a first for me so it’s just as exciting. I don’t feel like the first new find is bone - it’s flaky and sticky (sticks to wet fingers like ivory) and unlike other bone I’ve found - very fragile. But I don’t know. It’s so small. I was hoping the second find was something better than mammoth tooth fragment..but it’s a cool chunk  thanks again for your time helping me learn!

[Amarykah]

1 minute ago, Meganeura said:

Definitely no way you find any terror bird fossils then, or any Smilodon (Saber Tooth Tiger) fossils…  

I’m on it!  first I have to google terror bird hahaha….noobie!

[Meganeura]

2 minutes ago, Amarykah said:

I went back and forth on what @Shellseeker was telling me - the part about it being flattened made me think he meant walrus. So walrus stays on my bucket list of future finds haha. Whale tooth inner core is a first for me so it’s just as exciting. I don’t feel like the first new find is bone - it’s flaky and sticky (sticks to wet fingers like ivory) and unlike other bone I’ve found - very fragile. But I don’t know. It’s so small. I was hoping the second find was something better than mammoth tooth fragment..but it’s a cool chunk  thanks again for your time helping me learn!

Hmm. It could honestly be ivory then - the very tip of a lower juvenile mastodon tusk perhaps. The layering and look did make me think tusk, but I don’t see any Schreger lines, and the fact that one side is porous is weird. The stickiness is something I’ve only found with ivory though.