Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Insect head in burmese amber Hello all, I found an interesting piece of amber from Myanmar with a large insect head in it, the head is about 5 mm in size. It shows three teeth like serrations, I suspect it to be a wasp. Its a bit degraded but still interesting to me. Anyone have some ideas what it could be? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilobites_are_awesome Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Looks like a termite head to me. Cheers! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debivort Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I think the antennae might be too long for a termite? I get beetle vibes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Beetle/termite, interesting suggestions. But when I google their mandibles it doesnt show these three “teeth” that are so prominently there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debivort Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I think those are teeth on the mandibles. with palps below. Seems like you might just have one mandible remaining. Here's a tiger beetle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Ok, Tiger beetle it is. Now on the search to something very similar I found this: Coleoptera, Adephaga, Cicindelidae URL: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361869536_The_first_tiger_beetle_Coleoptera_Adephaga_Cicindelidae_from_mid-Cretaceous_Kachin_amber_northern_Myanmar the mandible is not a perfect match with that of my specimen, but maybe thats because its degraded a bit. Or perhaps its a different beetle all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debivort Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Oh, I don't think it's necessarily a *tiger* beetle. I think many beetles have toothed mandibles, palps and antennae that look like that. In fact, those antennae rule out tiger beetle. My comment earlier just indicated a general sense of beetle-ness, and even that not super high confidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 I agree with the beetle-ness. Would you or anyone have an idea what kind of beetle it could be based on those long antenna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debivort Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I tried googling for "beetle with long moniliform antennae" meaning like beads on a necklace and didn't find any good hits. But there are soooo many beetles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Well that is already something I can use, I will do some googling also and get back with what i can find. Thanks!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Ok, found: ground beetle, Coleoptera: Carabidae: Oodini. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0195667114001050 but that is missing the mandible. Found also: Termites, https://www.scienceopen.com/document_file/8a690cb4-a6e6-41ed-9ce9-13ac055e7e28/PubMedCentral/8a690cb4-a6e6-41ed-9ce9-13ac055e7e28.pdf but the antennae is a bit on the short side, and with specific class termites that have long enough antennae the mandibles don’t really match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 18 hours ago, Fossilcollector88 said: Ok, found: ground beetle, Coleoptera: Carabidae: Oodini. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0195667114001050 but that is missing the mandible. Found also: Termites, https://www.scienceopen.com/document_file/8a690cb4-a6e6-41ed-9ce9-13ac055e7e28/PubMedCentral/8a690cb4-a6e6-41ed-9ce9-13ac055e7e28.pdf but the antennae is a bit on the short side, and with specific class termites that have long enough antennae the mandibles don’t really match. Its not that termite either, there is too many articles in the antenna.. this is very difficult.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdinghistory Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I would agree with beetle. Hard to tell an exact species, many many species of beetles, and the preservation is not the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Agree with others above. Looks like a beetle. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Yes, a beetle. Any clue as to what kind of beetle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I have an extensive Burmite (with inclusions) collection. Have found it's quite difficult to get an exact id. I try and match specimens up to extant species. That's prob the closest one will get without consulting an expert. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector88 Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 What would be the closest extant species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdinghistory Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 This one might be hard to identify more specifically as the preservation is not the greatest and it does not appear to be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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