KSBasque Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) Walked a sandbar today and found this fossilized tooth with part of jaw. Found on Kaw ( Kansas River ) sandbank Eastern Kansas. Jaw part is completely vitreous ( non absorbent/ non porous ) and tooth has begun to agatize. Not sure on I.D. … possibly Camelid? Edited April 22 by KSBasque International scale added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 We would need a picture looking straight down on the chewing surface to help ID. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSBasque Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 (edited) Thank you kindly! I added images of the top of the tooth and a scale to additional pictures . My apologies, I meant to do that! 🙂 Edited April 22 by KSBasque 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSBasque Posted Wednesday at 08:19 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:19 AM Update: as of May, 2024, a paleontologist narrowed this down to one of three animals: elk, bison or musk ox. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted Wednesday at 12:36 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:36 PM @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker @fossillarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted Wednesday at 01:44 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:44 PM 5 hours ago, KSBasque said: Update: as of May, 2024, a paleontologist narrowed this down to one of three animals: elk, bison or musk ox. I know nothing about Musk_ox or Elk. But I'd see some similarities with a Bison P1. Here is a picture from Harry.. I would prefer his opinion. Accurate Length and Width stated in words may be helpful 3 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSBasque Posted Wednesday at 02:11 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 02:11 PM 25 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: I know nothing about Musk_ox or Elk. But I'd see some similarities with a Bison P1. Here is a picture from Harry.. I would prefer his opinion. Accurate Length and Width stated in words may be helpful Thank you. @ 14mm x 12.5mm widest Length x widest Width Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted Wednesday at 02:26 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:26 PM (edited) Yep, bison premolar in my opinion. Nice find! For reference, maxillary jaw: Edited Wednesday at 02:28 PM by Jaybot 4 -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM We seem to have a consensus . . . a bovid upper premolar. Musk ox is a reasonable guess, but no experience here with that taxon. Note the secondary lacuna which seems to be common in Ovibos teeth. 6 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossillarry Posted Friday at 11:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:40 PM This tooth is a right upper premolar 3 of a cervid. Based on size looks like Odocoileuus. The tooth is about half worn and the parastyle (the top upper right projection) is broken off. Not a bovid. not big or tall enough (Bison). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM Larry is right -- it's a deer upper P3 or P4. I didn't look hard enough. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted Saturday at 02:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:41 AM 3 hours ago, fossillarry said: Not a bovid. not big or tall enough (Bison). The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM 3 hours ago, fossillarry said: This tooth is a right upper premolar 3 of a cervid. Based on size looks like Odocoileuus. The tooth is about half worn and the parastyle (the top upper right projection) is broken off. Not a bovid. not big or tall enough (Bison). Good catch! I forgot to check dimensions. -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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