Yoda Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Hope someone can help with an ID British Coal Measures - Upper Carboniferous, Silesian Length approx 5cm MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) There's two or three possibilities, but without a better-focused photo the best guess is Sphenopteris, Alethopteris, or Mariopteris. Emphesis on the word 'guess'. Edited July 23, 2019 by Mark Kmiecik fixed sphehopteris typo 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Mark Kmiecik said: There's two or three possibilities, but without a better-focused photo the best guess is Sphehopteris, Alethopteris, or Mariopteris. Emphesis on the word 'guess'. Yep as Mark said a clearer photo would narrow it down but I'm gonna take a swag and say I'm leaning more towards Mariopteris.... Nice find! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Plantguy said: Yep as Mark said a clearer photo would narrow it down but I'm gonna take a swag and say I'm leaning more towards Mariopteris.... Nice find! Regards, Chris I'm leaning towards Sphenopteris. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said: I'm leaning towards Sphenopteris. I'm ok with that....we need a good photo... Regards, Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Plantguy said: I'm ok with that....we need a good photo... Regards, Chris I figured I'd lean in the other direction because if we both leaned the same way there would have been the possibility we'd both fall over. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 I will try take a better photo this evening. Thanks for the suggestions in the mean time. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Another photo taken with my phone. Hope it's a bit clearer. I have since treated with a layer of paraloid as the rock was very crumbly. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sorry, this second photograph is of little help. You will need to capture details that are essential for identification, such as the venation (density and morphology) and the pinnule margins. While ago I posted this example to argue the case for sharp photographs: 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 There are some decent photo magnifying apps on the market for free. There are also some cheap add on lenses that may be worth looking into, if a phone is all you have to take pictures. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said: There are some decent photo magnifying apps on the market for free. There are also some cheap add on lenses that may be worth looking into, if a phone is all you have to take pictures. I have been taking the photos with my phone. I do have a "proper camera", but it is no good for close ups. Thanks, will look into the software and lenses. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 You're trying to get too close with the phone. Back off until focused. Support the phone so it can't move as you touch the shutter release. Crop the excess 'dead space' from around the specimen. If you phone is a major brand like Apple, Samsung, LG, Nokia, etc., and manufactured in the last five years the camera is good enough to take the necessary photos. Make sure to wipe all the crud and fingerprint smudges off the lens before you shoot. Shoot outside, in diffused light but not in shadow. What is the make and model of camera that you have. It may have the ability to shoot 'close-ups' with proper lighting, etc. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmayshun Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 An easy fix for phones, is to rubber band a jeweler's loop over the lens...the phone camera will still focus and you'll get an enlarged image. My jewelers loop has a 10x on one side and a 20x on the opposite. I use both. Only drawback I suppose is the same caution when using a telephoto lens with a camera...use a tripod. I bought a small bendable leg tripod for my phone, and the combination enables me to take pretty good photos....in fact excellent if I really work at the lighting, angle etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 24/07/2019 at 9:11 PM, Mark Kmiecik said: You're trying to get too close with the phone. Back off until focused. Support the phone so it can't move as you touch the shutter release. Crop the excess 'dead space' from around the specimen. If you phone is a major brand like Apple, Samsung, LG, Nokia, etc., and manufactured in the last five years the camera is good enough to take the necessary photos. Make sure to wipe all the crud and fingerprint smudges off the lens before you shoot. Shoot outside, in diffused light but not in shadow. What is the make and model of camera that you have. It may have the ability to shoot 'close-ups' with proper lighting, etc. I tried again using the software that fossilsdude19 suggested, but there wasn't more detail. The camera is a bridge Panasonic. Can't think of the exact model off hand. MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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