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  1. I saw this listing for a tooth that has no serration but looks like it’s from a Tyrannosaurus rex or Nanotyrannus. Im leaning towards Nanotyrannus since it doesn’t seem robust, and the base is kinda like a rectangle. but it doesn’t appear to have the pinch and is quite long. It’s from powder river county, hell creek formation. I wanted to see other opinions.
  2. GarbanzoBean

    Help with Dino bone fragment

    I got this little bone fragment when I was a child from someone who said it was a hadrosaur bone from hell creek. Its always looked weird to me and I was wondering if it' s just another unidentifiable Dino nugget or if somebody could help me figure out what's going on here. Why does it look like there are two distinct regions fused together?
  3. Sergiorex

    Dinosaur claw ? id

    Saw this listing, wondering what possible animals it could be. Like raptor?
  4. Muffinsaurus

    Is this even bone?

    I bought this very, very cheap from someone who claims it came from the Hell Creek formation. They both claim it to be a triceratops fragments and hadrosaur. They found it in the 90s. That is all the information I have unfortunately. I have my doubts that it is even bone. Any help to identifying at, the very least, if this is even bone would be awesome. If this is bone I do not expect a proper identification of species because it's so small. Thanks in advance. Note: I did my best with the magnifying shots, my hands shook a bit. Also I might have posted this to the wrong forum. Sorry about that. Edited to remove ramblings.
  5. FF7_Yuffie

    Nano or Rex?

    Unfortunately, seller doesn't lnow beyond Hell Creek. Both are just over an inch long. 1, 2 and 3 = tooth 1 Now the base does indent slightly, but it is less rectangular and more rounded at the rear. So I would love an opinion on it. Picture 4, 5 and 6 is tooth 2. This looks partial? Though the photo of the base isn't head on (I've asked for extra pic), it looks sheared rather than complete? Pic 7= left is tooth 1, right is tooth 2. Thanks for the help.
  6. Dino Dad 81

    Vampire from Hell Creek?

    Hey all, If you have a chance, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this 0.8" tooth I got a while back. I've had it in my nanotyrannus grouping, but I can across it again recently and I think it probably too slender and too high of a DSDI. Maybe just a theropod indet. From the hell creek formation, Butte Co, South Dakota CH: 20mm if I include the whole thing, 17mm if I leave out some of what looks like root. CBL: 8.6mm CBW: 3.5mm Mesial serration density: 5.6/mm Distal serration density: about 4.1/mm Note that the base is caved in on one side and slightly on the other side too. But there's probably still some pinch.
  7. ThePhysicist

    Worn T. rex tooth (annotated)

    From the album: Hell Creek / Lance Formations

    Not the prettiest tooth, but I very much enjoy fossils like this that demonstrate behavior and tell a story. T. rex and other Tyrannosaurs were unusual among theropods in that they consumed the entire carcass of an animal - bones and all. Most theropod dinosaurs have ziphodont teeth, thin and knife-like, good for cutting muscle from bone. The thick and robust teeth of adult Tyrannosaurs, coupled with their incredible bite force, allowed them to shatter and pulverize bone - even those of the large, formidable herbivores they hunted. Despite the robustness of their teeth, Tyrannosaurs often broke them in the process of biting. It may have been a while before the broken tooth was replaced by a new one, so in the meantime, the broken tooth would continue to accumulate wear. This is one such tooth, a large portion of the tooth was broken off when the animal bit into another dinosaur, and it was still used afterwards for some time before it was replaced. Based on the placement and extension of the carinae to the base of the tooth, and the size, this was an anterior tooth (at the front of the mouth, probably the first dentary tooth) of an adult individual. See Schubert & Ungar (2005) for a discussion on Tyrannosaur tooth wear features (open-access).
  8. ThePhysicist

    Worn T. rex tooth

    From the album: Hell Creek / Lance Formations

    Not the prettiest tooth, but I very much enjoy fossils like this that demonstrate behavior and tell a story. T. rex and other Tyrannosaurs were unusual among theropods in that they consumed the entire carcass of an animal - bones and all. Most theropod dinosaurs have ziphodont teeth, thin and knife-like, good for cutting muscle from bone. The thick and robust teeth of adult Tyrannosaurs, coupled with their incredible bite force, allowed them to shatter and pulverize bone - even those of the large, formidable herbivores they hunted. Despite the robustness of their teeth, Tyrannosaurs often broke them in the process of biting. It may have been a while before the broken tooth was replaced by a new one, so in the meantime, the broken tooth would continue to accumulate wear. This is one such tooth, a large portion of the tooth was broken off when the animal bit into another dinosaur, and it was still used afterwards for some time before it was replaced. Based on the placement and extension of the carinae to the base of the tooth, and the size, this was an anterior tooth (at the front of the mouth, probably the first dentary tooth) of an adult individual. See Schubert & Ungar (2005) for a discussion on Tyrannosaur tooth wear features (open-access).
  9. Seller said this was probably a reptile toe bone. I was just curious to know if any more info could be gleaned from it? Measurements in imperial. Thanks!
  10. The_bro87

    Theropod foot bones?

    Hello! I found these foot bones (called tarsals I believe?) from Wibaux county Mt in the Hell Creek formation. The seller says that there’s a possibility these are theropod bones, specifically saying bone 1 might be a dromeosaur bone, and bone 2 could possibly be from a tyrannosaur. I looked at some photos online and the only real difference I could tell is some of the dromeosaur bones could be proportionally longer. I also don’t know how to tell if these are even from dinosaurs or some other reptile/bird. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.
  11. Dino Dad 81

    Small Hell Creek theropod tooth

    Hey all, What are your thoughts on this on this one? Thanks, as always, for your help! From the hell creek formation, Hill County, Montana CH: 13.5mm CBL: 7.2mm CBW: 3.0mm Mesial serration density: about 5.5/mm Distal serration density: about 4.5/mm
  12. Dino Dad 81

    Wounded tooth?

    Hey all, Do you think it's safe to say that this fella went mouth-to-mouth with a contemporary (antemortem) and got the other's serrations stamped on the tip of his front tooth? In this first pic, it almost looks like the tooth got raked against another's serrations, starting or ending with the point of significant imprint.
  13. FF7_Yuffie

    Nanotyraannus, Rex or Raptor?

    Hi, Any thoughts on this? It is from Garfield, County, Montana. 1.8 cm so it's quite small. The serrations are a bit battered and have matrix stuck on them, but are present. Any thoughts would be appreciated. The white marks, am I right that this is from plant roots wrapped around the tooth? Thanks
  14. Dino Dad 81

    Nano or Dromie?

    Hi all, If you have a chance, I'm curious to know what you think this tooth from hell creek, SD likely is. I don't have a provenance, but the seller does the digs themselves is exclusively in the Hell Creek. It was labelled Dromaeosaurus, so we know it needs an fix. I think the thing I'm struggling most with is whether the very weak fluting (or shrink wrapped appearance) is sufficient to call it Acheroraptor rather than Nanotyrannus. I'm thinking that the strong recurve also suggests possibly Acheroraptor. The base has enough pinch that Dakotaraptor is probably out, but I'm not sure Acheroraptor is out too. The denticles look a bit chisel, but I believe Acheroraptor can look this way. But, all things considered, it may most likely be Nanotyrannus. CH: 16mm CBL: 8.5mm CBW: 4mm Mesial serration density: 5/mm Distal serration density: 4/mm Here it is in the middle of my suspected Acheroraptor teeth. It'd be quite large for that species. The CHR might have caused me concern, but the tooth on the far right is pretty clearly Acheroraptor (fluting) and probably has an even lower CHR. Thank you!!
  15. Rikache

    Ankylosaur Scute or Pachy Armor?

    Hi there everyone! This one might be a bit of a tough one. I came across this listing for a possible partial ankylosaur osteoderm or pachycephalosaurus skull armor and was wondering if anyone could help positively ID the specimen. The fossil was found on private ranch land in Harding County, South Dakota. The specimen is small and obviously a fragment so I’m not expecting any clear answers; but in the past I have come across whole ankylosaur osteoderms that looked very similar in terms of texture and coloring, so my untrained eye is inclined to lean towards that conclusion. Important information Locality: Harding County, SD (Hell Creek Formation Size: ~0.8” wide Thank you all so much for your help and for always making me feel like a welcome member of the community, you all seriously rock! Cheers!
  16. The_bro87

    Nanno or Rex tooth?

    Hello! I saw this interesting tooth for sale and I’m on the fence about purchasing it. It’s a .66” Nanotyrannus tooth from Garfield county Montana. The tip is restored but that doesn’t bother me. I’m posting because the base seemed a lot thicker than a lot of nanno teeth I see, and I also couldn’t really tell if there was any of the typical “pinching” on the sides. I was hoping for help determining if this is a Nanotyrannus tooth, or possibly a T. rex. Thanks!
  17. Simonsaz

    nanotyrannus tooth?

    hello, a quick question. the dinosaur tooth has a length of 1.9 inch. the tooth was found in the hell creek formation. I don't know the exact location. I would say it is a nanotyrannus tooth. what do you think? and if so, what do you think, whether above or below the jaw? I think that's a little thing for you ;) best regards and thank you very much in advance for your help
  18. Hi all, This claw has been posted on a certain popular bidding website described as "raptor or T. rex", although several of the image filenames from the seller say "Anzu". It's just over 3 inches long, and was found in Hell Creek, South Dakota. It's the right size for Anzu, but there's no protruding dorsal "lip" of the articulating surface that Anzu hand claws have. The articulating surface also doesn't look like it extends all the way down to the bottom of the claw, as in Anzu foot claws. I can't imagine it's ornithomimus or struthiomimus, as their claws don't have much curvature. Could it be subadult T. rex/nanotyrannus? Dromaeosaurus? Dakotaraptor? Cheers!
  19. (Note: I don't know why half of this is in bold, I wrote this in a google doc first and copy pasted it to here, and it defaults to bold without the ability to undo it. This tends to fluctuate. Easy to see though!) "Dinosaurs are overrated", Mike teased to me. We were sitting together at the flooded dig site of our mosasaur in the early morning hours, having just finished a jam-packed but enjoyable conversation about his research and other matters related to paleo. Naturally, dinosaurs were brought up, as our schedule had to work around my upcoming internship to the Hell Creek formation. "You're right" I chuckled back - yet we both knew otherwise. Our jabs were at the insane media attention that the Hell Creek mega fauna receive, not at the neglected fact that these animals were just that, animals. Mike at his core is a biologist, a naturalist even, studying mosasaurs and their evolution. I hoped that I would get a chance to really appreciate dinosaurs in that same naturalist-esque light in person. Dinosaurs are just different to dinosaur paleontologists, and I'm glad now that I got to immerse myself in that. The group I was meeting with was actually a duo - "Fossil Excavators" is a small non-profit with big research ambitions (based on some amazing material they've discovered) run by two awesome guys - Harrison Duran and Dr. Mike Kjelland. Some may know them from this discovery that circulated a couple years ago, of a Triceratops skull named "Alice" with an interesting brow horn deformity. https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745760553/college-student-discovers-65-million-year-old-triceratops-skull So, while not an internship with a school, it was an internship nonetheless and I gained experience, inspiration, and friendships. As for friends, Harrison and two of the other interns, Dawson ( @Dawson Sensenig) and Piper, as well as our amazing photographer Brittany Nailon who took many of these photos I'll show later, deserve a special mention. We spent the first few days scouting for new sites, and to good success. Mike came across the best of these new sites, which we since have dubbed "The Graveyard". It's a river wash deposit, so there's very little that's articulated but there is a great diversity of species. Better yet, the matrix is the polar opposite of the hard shales and limestones I'm used to here in Texas. In this deposit at least, it was like digging through a sand box (delightful!). Here are some quick pics from that spot: Just such a picture perfect insitu for this vert, sitting at the base of a hill among lots of other scattered bone: This well preserved edmontosaur carpal that @Dawson Sensenig found big ol' gar scale from Piper I actually made fewer direct discoveries than expected (which is ok, we worked as a team and we're directed to a spot to dig so it's not like I'd be able to take much credit for finding something anyway ). I was however happy to find this (likely) Dromaeosaur claw Though, it paled in comparison with the find 15 minutes earlier close by, from another intern (cameron) - this awesome theropod claw shown below, maybe from Anzu wyliei. A tiny tooth that we assume to be the ever enigmatic Paronychodon: This Edmontosaurus metatarsal that Dawson spotted (though I'm holding it) A stingray tooth I found, because of course I will find something aquatic here - never far from my roots! A small, broken rex tooth spotted by our photographer Brittany and a dromaeosaur tooth: More Edmontosaurus material - jaw pieces and a rib: More edmontosaur materiel, this time from a different clay site - due to the more stable matrix, there was some articulation here, though just a few verts There was also the usual assortment of leaves and ceratopsian teeth. One cool thing that stood out to me was this seed preserved in ironstone. There were a few rainy days, and one of them we spent in eastern montana on the bearpaw shale, collecting campanian invertebrates. The storms up there were hard and brief, full of orange lightning. I also include a photo I took below of one of those cloud bursts: Our bearpaw formation cephalopods! The ammonites found by our group above were exquisite, and I was particularly excited about the nautiloid. It was also a day of firsts, in that for the first time ever, I accepted a fossil into my collection (yes, we got to keep our finds that day!) that I didn't find myself. @Dawson Sensenig discovered the ammonite shown right before the nautiloid, and graciously insisted I keep it. How could I decline? As a quick break from the fossils, I'll include some of the extant fauna of the hell creek we ran into, and some other shennanigans: Beautiful prairie rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) I encountered while scouting high up on one of the many buttes: A gopher snake (Pituophis catenifer) I caught that may even be the same individual we initially discovered in our outhouse And a constant dig companion in some spots: In addition to the creepy crawlies, the landscape was one full of mule deer and pronghorn. I have a deep admiration and fascination for pronghorn, considering their vestigial speed from outrunning Miracinonyx. I had this idea that I would like to chase down/ follow a mule deer or pronghorn for as long as I could manage, as our ancestors did while persistence hunting. Needless to say my few attempts failed quickly - though I had sandals good for running, they were not good at guarding me from the cacti that flourish there. I was still pulling spines out of my feet two weeks later . Dawson and I became fast friends that shared a lot in common, (besides just a love for paleo). I helped resurrect an interest in climbing he had while he helped inspire an interest in running in me. There's not much to climb in North Dakota, but we did find a boulder that offered some fun. Here's Dawson and I below: (Dawson taking a moment to blink the sand from his eyes before trying the big move on this ridiculous little climb) (Myself dangling immediately after the big move...with eyes full of sand). There was a rib 20 feet away around the corner here. I also became great friends with our photographer, Brittany. Her goal is actually to primarily be a paleontology photographer, pretty cool. She also used both film and digital, and I'm particularly fond of the film shots (though I can't post all of them yet!) (And I can't help from shouting her out.... if you need someone (or know someone who needs someone) to photograph geologists or paleontologists... she's your gal!). Here are a few of the photos she took that I was there for: (Digging on the Edmontosaur rib) Dawson and I shaking plaster covered hands, with Harry, who guided the process, in the background. An environment shot of the "Graveyard" on film one of the days we were chased away by weather - that's me taking a photo of a butte in the distance Another environment shot of the beautiful Hell creek strata, also on film. another film shot from Brittany of myself while scouting - I felt right at home on these big sandy hills... ample practice from the steep, unstable Ozan exposures back home! Another film shot below of some of the crew: This photo above was a cool memory. There was no reception, but at the airport, before I left, I deliberately left a tab open with @Troodon's marvelous write-up on the forum about "The case for Nanotyrannus" (below). I opened it up to get to talk about it with the other interns, and Harry looked over us to see what the fuss was about. Seeing this, Brittany yelled "WAIT keep doing that! Don't stop!" and took this photo, as well as two others, as we talked over @Troodon's fantastic write up. EDIT: When I posted this (at 3 am) last night I completely forgot to include two other highlights! 1) On one of the rain days, we drove into the small town nearby and rented out a theater for $75 an hour, and watched two episodes of David Attenborough's "Prehistoric Planet". I was pleasantly surprised by this documentary, it was tastefully done and very engaging. The ammonite scene was so beautifully made that it may as well have brought a tear to my eye . If you haven't seen it, you should! 2) Our team had beers at a little diner with Robert DePalma and his team (from the Tanis site). It was cool to get to know those guys, considering their impressive position in the field of paleontology they hold at the moment. Tanis was in the same "neighborhood" as some of our sites! Before my conclusion, I just want to include the two CRAZY finds Harry made with Mike and the rest of the team right after I left: While I was there, I was very keen to find mammal material. There's a very significant site that we were working on towards the end dubbed "Alexandria's library" (due to the wealth of rare specimens it has produced for the team in the past). I only got to be involved in working the site for a couple days, as the newer Graveyard site was able to be investigated thoroughly and efficiently in our time there. The main day I spent working at Alexandria's library was spent with Dawson slamming away at ironstone capping a hill, so that we could get to the fossiliferous sands and clays below. We finished the job but didn't get a chance to actually investigate the fruits of our labors there. Upon returning to the newly revealed sands, Harry then finds a DIDELPHODON JAW! As luck would have it, the big finds came in quickly after I left, with another amazing find that would've given me a heart attack (so it's probably for the best...) ...yeah. I was stunned when he texted me this. I'm so proud these guys. And so that was our time there, and I'm influenced. Never have I felt so inspired and driven to the paleo goal as I do now. There was a moment I had at the graveyard site that I will never forget. I was crouched, moving into a neighboring butte with a screw driver. I had my friends at my side, similarly driven and exceptionally knowledgeable, and each deeply focused on their task at hand. We were damp, as a sudden cloud burst caught us red handed an hour before. The sun was out again and the clouds were scattered but full of color and depth - the sort of beautiful sky you can expect in a waning afternoon after a strong storm. I looked out over the three buttes that dominated the sky line at this site, and finally settled a thought that I've been brooding on for months. I will fully commit to paleontology. This is what I want my life to be, and I'm willing to face the elephant in the room (money) if it means that I get to do what I was doing, right then and there, for the rest of my life. This is a life well lived. Paleontology is a sacred science, one of deep wonder and a wide range of demanded skill. Not only is a paleontologist a multi-disciplinary academic, excelling at the very least in both geology and biology (while often proficient in chemistry and physics) - a paleontologist is also an explorer and adventurer, with dirt under his nails and probably an ache in his back . It's a gritty science that occupies two worlds. Not only that though. What strikes me is the sheer amount of totally untouched potential still locked away in the rocks. A modern biologist has to look hard to find something new, in a place usually isolated. You and I might walk into the greenbelt by our neighborhood and stand a plausible chance of discovering something either unnoticed or just flat out never seen before. That is something special. Being a paleontologist today is like being a naturalist at the turn of the 20th century. We have the entire world open to us. And so that was the 2022 Hell Creek expedition. I do have a closer appreciation for dinosaurs now, and I even have a few exciting ideas concerning them on the horizon...but I must say it's a pleasure to be back to this hallowed, marine deposited ground. I missed our big lizards and sharks. Onwards and upwards!
  20. Hey everybody, on my most recent excursion in the Hell creek formation ear the powder river in montana. I found some pieces of weathered out bone all in a 5 foot radius of each other on a small rise. Due to changing weather and approaching night I didn't have the chance to uncover anything else so I grabbed the weathered out pieces and will come back to the site in August. I am a beginner and am honestly stumped as to what these could be. The 2 largest bone fragments measure 22x10.5x2.5cm and 12.8x7.3x2.9cm respectively. I am inbetween chunkasaurous or a possible ceratopsian frill. But I don't see the pronounced blood grooves frills are supposed to have. For the next largest bone fragment measuring 10x3.7x2.0cm I was thinking a vertebral process, rib, or the edge of a frill, the rounded edge on it has the same sized round as the one present on the largest bone. The rest I have no idea the smallest pieces have some interest patterning that look like some patterning I've seen or turtle shells from hell creek but these are really small. I know @Troodon has been a wonderful help before but I'd love anyone elses opinion if they can be identified or are just a lovely addition to my chunkasaur collection.
  21. (Note: I don't know why half of this is in bold, I wrote this in a google doc first and copy pasted it to here, and it defaults to bold without the ability to undo it. This tends to fluctuate. Easy to see though!) "Dinosaurs are overrated", Mike teased to me. We were sitting together at the flooded dig site of our mosasaur in the early morning hours, having just finished a jam-packed but enjoyable conversation about his research and other matters related to paleo. Naturally, dinosaurs were brought up, as our schedule had to work around my upcoming internship to the Hell Creek formation. "You're right" I chuckled back - yet we both knew otherwise. Our jabs were at the insane media attention that the Hell Creek mega fauna receive, not at the neglected fact that these animals were just that, animals. Mike at his core is a biologist, a naturalist even, studying mosasaurs and their evolution. I hoped that I would get a chance to really appreciate dinosaurs in that same naturalist-esque light in person. Dinosaurs are just different to dinosaur paleontologists, and I'm glad now that I got to immerse myself in that. The group I was meeting with was actually a duo - "Fossil Excavators" is a small non-profit with big research ambitions (based on some amazing material they've discovered) run by two awesome guys - Harrison Duran and Dr. Mike Kjelland. Some may know them from this discovery that circulated a couple years ago, of a Triceratops skull named "Alice" with an interesting brow horn deformity. https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745760553/college-student-discovers-65-million-year-old-triceratops-skull So, while not an internship with a school, it was an internship nonetheless and I gained experience, inspiration, and friendships. As for friends, Harrison and two of the other interns, Dawson ( @Dawson Sensenig) and Piper, as well as our amazing photographer Brittany Nailon who took many of these photos I'll show later, deserve a special mention. We spent the first few days scouting for new sites, and to good success. Mike came across the best of these new sites, which we since have dubbed "The Graveyard". It's a river wash deposit, so there's very little that's articulated but there is a great diversity of species. Better yet, the matrix is the polar opposite of the hard shales and limestones I'm used to here in Texas. In this deposit at least, it was like digging through a sand box (delightful!). Here are some quick pics from that spot: Just such a picture perfect insitu for this vert, sitting at the base of a hill among lots of other scattered bone: This well preserved edmontosaur carpal that @Dawson Sensenig found big ol' gar scale from Piper I actually made fewer direct discoveries than expected (which is ok, we worked as a team and we're directed to a spot to dig so it's not like I'd be able to take much credit for finding something anyway ). I was however happy to find this (likely) Dromaeosaur claw Though, it paled in comparison with the find 15 minutes earlier close by, from another intern (cameron) - this awesome theropod claw shown below, maybe from Anzu wyliei. A tiny tooth that we assume to be the ever enigmatic Paronychodon: This Edmontosaurus metatarsal that Dawson spotted (though I'm holding it) A stingray tooth I found, because of course I will find something aquatic here - never far from my roots! A small, broken rex tooth spotted by our photographer Brittany and a dromaeosaur tooth: More Edmontosaurus material - jaw pieces and a rib: More edmontosaur materiel, this time from a different clay site - due to the more stable matrix, there was some articulation here, though just a few verts There was also the usual assortment of leaves and ceratopsian teeth. One cool thing that stood out to me was this seed preserved in ironstone. There were a few rainy days, and one of them we spent in eastern montana on the bearpaw shale, collecting campanian invertebrates. The storms up there were hard and brief, full of orange lightning. I also include a photo I took below of one of those cloud bursts: Our bearpaw formation cephalopods! The ammonites found by our group above were exquisite, and I was particularly excited about the nautiloid. It was also a day of firsts, in that for the first time ever, I accepted a fossil into my collection (yes, we got to keep our finds that day!) that I didn't find myself. @Dawson Sensenig discovered the ammonite shown right before the nautiloid, and graciously insisted I keep it. How could I decline? As a quick break from the fossils, I'll include some of the extant fauna of the hell creek we ran into, and some other shennanigans: Beautiful prairie rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) I encountered while scouting high up on one of the many buttes: A gopher snake (Pituophis catenifer) I caught that may even be the same individual we initially discovered in our outhouse And a constant dig companion in some spots: In addition to the creepy crawlies, the landscape was one full of mule deer and pronghorn. I have a deep admiration and fascination for pronghorn, considering their vestigial speed from outrunning Miracinonyx. I had this idea that I would like to chase down/ follow a mule deer or pronghorn for as long as I could manage, as our ancestors did while persistence hunting. Needless to say my few attempts failed quickly - though I had sandals good for running, they were not good at guarding me from the cacti that flourish there. I was still pulling spines out of my feet two weeks later . Dawson and I became fast friends that shared a lot in common, (besides just a love for paleo). I helped resurrect an interest in climbing he had while he helped inspire an interest in running in me. There's not much to climb in North Dakota, but we did find a boulder that offered some fun. Here's Dawson and I below: (Dawson taking a moment to blink the sand from his eyes before trying the big move on this ridiculous little climb) (Myself dangling immediately after the big move...with eyes full of sand). There was a rib 20 feet away around the corner here. I also became great friends with our photographer, Brittany. Her goal is actually to primarily be a paleontology photographer, pretty cool. She also used both film and digital, and I'm particularly fond of the film shots (though I can't post all of them yet!) (And I can't help from shouting her out.... if you need someone (or know someone who needs someone) to photograph geologists or paleontologists... she's your gal!). Here are a few of the photos she took that I was there for: (Digging on the Edmontosaur rib) Dawson and I shaking plaster covered hands, with Harry, who guided the process, in the background. An environment shot of the "Graveyard" on film one of the days we were chased away by weather - that's me taking a photo of a butte in the distance Another environment shot of the beautiful Hell creek strata, also on film. another film shot from Brittany of myself while scouting - I felt right at home on these big sandy hills... ample practice from the steep, unstable Ozan exposures back home! Another film shot below of some of the crew: This photo above was a cool memory. There was no reception, but at the airport, before I left, I deliberately left a tab open with @Troodon's marvelous write-up on the forum about "The case for Nanotyrannus" (below). I opened it up to get to talk about it with the other interns, and Harry looked over us to see what the fuss was about. Seeing this, Brittany yelled "WAIT keep doing that! Don't stop!" and took this photo, as well as two others, as we talked over @Troodon's fantastic write up. EDIT: When I posted this (at 3 am) last night I completely forgot to include two other highlights! 1) On one of the rain days, we drove into the small town nearby and rented out a theater for $75 an hour, and watched two episodes of David Attenborough's "Prehistoric Planet". I was pleasantly surprised by this documentary, it was tastefully done and very engaging. The ammonite scene was so beautifully made that it may as well have brought a tear to my eye . If you haven't seen it, you should! 2) Our team had beers at a little diner with Robert DePalma and his team (from the Tanis site). It was cool to get to know those guys, considering their impressive position in the field of paleontology they hold at the moment. Tanis was in the same "neighborhood" as some of our sites! Before my conclusion, I just want to include the two CRAZY finds Harry made with Mike and the rest of the team right after I left: While I was there, I was very keen to find mammal material. There's a very significant site that we were working on towards the end dubbed "Alexandria's library" (due to the wealth of rare specimens it has produced for the team in the past). I only got to be involved in working the site for a couple days, as the newer Graveyard site was able to be investigated thoroughly and efficiently in our time there. The main day I spent working at Alexandria's library was spent with Dawson slamming away at ironstone capping a hill, so that we could get to the fossiliferous sands and clays below. We finished the job but didn't get a chance to actually investigate the fruits of our labors there. Upon returning to the newly revealed sands, Harry then finds a DIDELPHODON JAW! As luck would have it, the big finds came in quickly after I left, with another amazing find that would've given me a heart attack (so it's probably for the best...) ...yeah. I was stunned when he texted me this. I'm so proud these guys. And so that was our time there, and I'm influenced. Never have I felt so inspired and driven to the paleo goal as I do now. There was a moment of I had at the graveyard site that I will never forget. I was crouched, moving into a neighboring butte with a screw driver. I had my friends at my side, similarly driven and exceptionally knowledgeable, and each deeply focused on their task at hand. We were damp, as a sudden cloud burst caught us red handed an hour before. The sun was out again and the clouds were scattered but full of color and depth - the sort of beautiful sky you can expect in a waning afternoon after a strong storm. I looked out over the three buttes that dominated the sky line at this site, and finally settled a thought that I've been brooding on for months. I will fully commit to paleontology. This is what I want my life to be, and I'm willing to face the elephant in the room (money) if it means that I get to do what I was doing, right then and there, for the rest of my life. This is a life well lived. Paleontology is a sacred science, one of deep wonder and a wide range of demanded skill. Not only is a paleontologist a multi-disciplinary academic, excelling at the very least in both geology and biology (while often proficient in chemistry and physics) - a paleontologist is also an explorer and adventurer, with dirt under his nails and probably an ache in his back . It's a gritty science that occupies two worlds. Not only that though. What strikes me is the sheer amount of totally untouched potential still locked away in the rocks. A modern biologist has to look hard to find something new, in a place usually isolated. You and I might walk into the greenbelt by our neighborhood and stand a plausible chance of discovering something either unnoticed or just flat out never seen before. That is something special. Being a paleontologist today is like being a naturalist at the turn of the 20th century. We have the entire world open to us. And so that was the 2022 Hell Creek expedition. I do have a closer appreciation for dinosaurs now, and I even have a few exciting ideas concerning them on the horizon...but I must say it's a pleasure to be back to this hallowed, marine deposited ground. I missed our big lizards and sharks. Onwards and upwards!
  22. Mrhenky3

    Nanotyrannus or other?

    I've recently aquired this Tyrannosaurid tooth from a local shop. The shop sold it as Nanotyrannus lancensis. I think the tip has been repaired, but not quite sure that it is worn or repaired. However the tooth does not show the indents on the bottom, which is sometimes to be expected on Nanotyrannus I heard. I was wondering if somebody could take another look for me and share their opinion, about what species this tooth belonged to. Thanks in advance. The tooth was found in the Hell Creek Formation in Montana
  23. PaleoNoel

    Bird Vertebra from Hell Creek

    Hi everyone, I wanted to share my favorite find from the Hell Creek of eastern Montana from the last few weeks. It's overall shape and size suggest to me that it's a hesperornithid vert. The bone is a bit over 3 cm long and around 2.5 cm in height. After some comparisons to Hesperornis vertebrae online I feel that this is the best match. From "Identification of a New Hesperornithiform from the Niobrara Chalk and Implications for the Ecologic Diversity of Early Diving Birds" by Alyssa Bell and Luis Chiappe in 2015 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141690
  24. Dino Dad 81

    Theropod tooth Hell Creek

    I got another odd man out in my hell creek group. What do you think? The hell creek formation CH: 11mm CBL: 6mm CBW: 3mm Mesial serration density: about 5.5/mm Distal serration density: about 4/mm Serration shape: Hard to tell, given that it looks like half of each denticle is worn away Base cross-section: Almond Mesial carina: Straight Thanks in advance!
  25. Georgemckenzie

    Tyrannosaurus rex tooth help Id

    Hiya everyone interested in a tooth seller says it’s trex but a help with id would be great thanks
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