FF7_Yuffie Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Iffy about this because China fossils are often fake, but it's being sold from a collection outside of China (exported in 80s). Described as "restored and glued and protected with B72" 17cm x 15 by 13. Vague location beyond "Cretaceous China" What's the consensus? Fake, composite or the real deal? Edit. Just realised I put in wrong forum. Should be in the is it fake section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Cannot say much with the photos provided. Need HD photos with better lighting and cloeup of the jaw area and other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Troodon said: Cannot say much with the photos provided. Need HD photos with better lighting and cloeup of the jaw area and other areas. Thanks for taking a look, again. Much appreciated. The seller is in my home city actually, I'll see if he would be open for me seeing it in person so I can take some close-up snaps. Failing that, I'll see if I can get some closeup photos. I'd quite like a skull for my desk, so it caught my eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Looks purty darn good to me but like Troodon has already said, better pictures would be nice. Those are very dark pics with lots of shadows so hard to make a really good determination. RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, RJB said: Looks purty darn good to me but like Troodon has already said, better pictures would be nice. Those are very dark pics with lots of shadows so hard to make a really good determination. RB Thanks, I have requested some more, better lit and closer photos from the seller soon. I will post them if I get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 @RJB @Troodon The seller has sent a few additional photos, if you can take a quick look. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 There are a few that are above the allowed file size too, so I cant upload them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnOfADream Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, FF7_Yuffie said: There are a few that are above the allowed file size too, so I cant upload them. @FF7_Yuffie you can use an online file compressor to compress your photos beforehand so you can add more to your post. Super helpful due to the forum's upload limitations! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, DawnOfADream said: @FF7_Yuffie you can use an online file compressor to compress your photos beforehand so you can add more to your post. Super helpful due to the forum's upload limitations! Nice, cheers. I'll compress the larger ones and get them up after work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 Updated with the two photos that were too big to include. Hope these are close-up enough to give any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 The detailed photos showing bones which are real imho. @Crazyhen may know a little bit more to say about this one... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Pemphix said: The detailed photos showing bones which are real imho. @Crazyhen may know a little bit more to say about this one... Nice, glad its looking positive so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Now, im not saying it is, but this area looks to be put together? and maybe more. RB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Looks like some resto but I cannot really make a good assessment with these photos. Probably need to hold it to be sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, RJB said: Now, im not saying it is, but this area looks to be put together? and maybe more. RB The item description says there has been [some restoration and glueing. With b7 to protect.] This bit then is one of the restored bits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 @FF7_Yuffie Jack, please remember that we do not allow ad copy to be posted. Thanks. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, JohnJ said: @FF7_Yuffie Jack, please remember that we do not allow ad copy to be posted. Thanks. Oops, sorry about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhen Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Based on the not very clear photos, it looks like genuine to me but I am not 100% sure as fake skulls made up of composite of fossil bones (mostly mammals) are known. They are made with sophisticated skills and it's hard to tell if it is fake unless you got it examined closely. I like to look at the jaws to see if teeth are present, and it seems they are there. By the way, I don't agree that China fossils are often fake. There are fake ones, just like everywhere else, but China has a rich reserve of fossils, some of which are so abundant (e.g. Keichousaurus) that it is not worthy to make fake ones. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Crazyhen said: Based on the not very clear photos, it looks like genuine to me but I am not 100% sure as fake skulls made up of composite of fossil bones (mostly mammals) are known. They are made with sophisticated skills and it's hard to tell if it is fake unless you got it examined closely. I like to look at the jaws to see if teeth are present, and it seems they are there. By the way, I don't agree that China fossils are often fake. There are fake ones, just like everywhere else, but China has a rich reserve of fossils, some of which are so abundant (e.g. Keichousaurus) that it is not worthy to make fake ones. Thanks for the help. Appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 7.5.2020 at 3:20 AM, Crazyhen said: Based on the not very clear photos, it looks like genuine to me but I am not 100% sure as fake skulls made up of composite of fossil bones (mostly mammals) are known. They are made with sophisticated skills and it's hard to tell if it is fake unless you got it examined closely. I like to look at the jaws to see if teeth are present, and it seems they are there. By the way, I don't agree that China fossils are often fake. There are fake ones, just like everywhere else, but China has a rich reserve of fossils, some of which are so abundant (e.g. Keichousaurus) that it is not worthy to make fake ones. Thanks for having a look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Incidentally, I missed out. I was in the lead until there were 2 minutes left then it skyrocketed way out of my price range. Ah, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Amazing. In less than 24 hours since it was sold, this skull is now being resold on our favorite auction site 1 Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, -Andy- said: Amazing. In less than 24 hours since it was sold, this skull is now being resold on our favorite auction site Will be interesting to see if it makes it to the new seller in Canada. Its coming from Taiwan and needs to go through customs so lots of red flags there. Finally looking at all the photos it was large but the quality did not look good with several suspect areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF7_Yuffie Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Troodon said: Will be interesting to see if it makes it to the new seller in Canada. Its coming from Taiwan and needs to go through customs so lots of red flags there. Finally looking at all the photos it was large but the quality did not look good with several suspect areas. I live in Taiwan, the mail service is notoriously bad for losing things. I've had cards and things from my parents either not turn up or turn up weeks after they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhen Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 This is a Psittachosaurus skull I saw from a collector in China. It looks more intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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