Is timurlengia really a tyrannosarid?

[Roland Emmerich]

it seems to be much more basal, but the news keeps saying close relative of t-rex like its a much more derived member of the group

[Kikokuryu]

I don't think it was a tyrannosaurid last I checked. It falls outside of true tyrannosaurids being more basal, but more derived than Dilong, but as a member of Pantyrannosauria, it is more closely related to Tyrannosaurus than to Proceratosaurus.

 

I think what's confusing is that the name Tyrannosaur is used as a common name to describe all Tyrannosauroids. Most of these clades have tyrannosaur somewhere in the name which doesn't help.

 

https://www.pnas.org/content/113/13/3447

[Troodon]

Correct its not a tyrannosaurid but a tyrannosauroidae member of the Pantyrannosauria clade 

 

One can see where it fits in this illustration from S. Brusatte et al paper

 

 

 

New tyrannosaur from the mid-Cretaceous of Uzbekistan clarifies evolution of giant body sizes and advanced senses in tyrant dinosaurs Stephen L. Brusatte, Alexander Averianov, Hans-Dieter Sues , Amy Muira , and Ian B. Butlera

[Roland Emmerich]

7 hours ago, Kikokuryu said:

I don't think it was a tyrannosaurid last I checked. It falls outside of true tyrannosaurids being more basal, but more derived than Dilong, but as a member of Pantyrannosauria, it is more closely related to Tyrannosaurus than to Proceratosaurus.

 

I think what's confusing is that the name Tyrannosaur is used as a common name to describe all Tyrannosauroids. Most of these clades have tyrannosaur somewhere in the name which doesn't help.

 

https://www.pnas.org/content/113/13/3447

Just as I suspectd